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[LJ]

Jaguar is going all electric vehicles by 2025.

[MarkoJ]

Jaguar is going all electric vehicles by 2025.

 

I am sure they are. The I-Pace has been a total flop. They can't even move them with 20k off MSRP.

[Hotel Mike]

Is the I-Pace problem-ridden Marko, or was it just poor marketing?

[Mike K.]

Dude! It's a Jaguar. Of course it's problem-ridden. Jag's have one of the worst quality ratings of any automobile on the road today.

[spanky123]

Dude! It's a Jaguar. Of course it's problem-ridden. Jag's have one of the worst quality ratings of any automobile on the road today.

 

Although the car has been reviewed well.

[MarkoJ]

I-pace very well reviewed and has been reliable. The problem is Tesla. Model Y is cheaper, faster, better ranger, better tech, supercharging network and with more and more Teslas on the road with over 200-300k it is proven. I've had near zero issues @ 200,000. Someone would have to come out with a pretty awesome product for me to switch.

[Victoria Watcher]

what do you guys make of the Fisker Ocean?

 

 

https://www.nasdaq.c...pace-2021-02-18

 

 

 

Fisker’s 250-mile to 300-mile range Ocean SUV will begin production in the fourth quarter of 2022. As I said before, it offers a premium, unique design that is also sustainable. The company’s mobile application will cover ordering, insuring and maintaining the vehicle. The Ocean EV model will also include a certain degree of semi-automated driving functionality.

 

All those things make Fisker’s EV model stand out. But at $37,499, the Ocean also has advantages in terms of price. If you decide to buy the vehicle, you will qualify for the Federal Electric Car Tax Credit (which can be as much as $7,500), potentially pushing the price down to about $30,000. But you can also lease the car, starting at $379 per month with a $2,999 down-payment.

 

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Like I also mentioned earlier, Magna International will be responsible for the production side of things. This is not Magna’s first go-around — it has produced the Toyota Supra, Mercedes-Benz G-Class and the Jaguar I-Pace, among others. That asset-light model will help.

 

Magna will get warrants of up to 6% of Fisker’s equity as part of its deal with the company. Even if you don’t like the company on fundamentals, you must admit that FSR stock is doing well. Shares are up over 1o% in just the last three months. So, a potential 6% stake is undoubtedly valuable.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2021 - 08:50 AM.

[SimonH]

Audi RS E Tron GT:

 

Starting price $179k. Ouch.

 

[spanky123]

what do you guys make of the Fisker Ocean?

 

 

https://www.nasdaq.c...pace-2021-02-18

 

 

 

Fisker’s 250-mile to 300-mile range Ocean SUV will begin production in the fourth quarter of 2022. As I said before, it offers a premium, unique design that is also sustainable. The company’s mobile application will cover ordering, insuring and maintaining the vehicle. The Ocean EV model will also include a certain degree of semi-automated driving functionality.

 

All those things make Fisker’s EV model stand out. But at $37,499, the Ocean also has advantages in terms of price. If you decide to buy the vehicle, you will qualify for the Federal Electric Car Tax Credit (which can be as much as $7,500), potentially pushing the price down to about $30,000. But you can also lease the car, starting at $379 per month with a $2,999 down-payment.

 

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Like I also mentioned earlier, Magna International will be responsible for the production side of things. This is not Magna’s first go-around — it has produced the Toyota Supra, Mercedes-Benz G-Class and the Jaguar I-Pace, among others. That asset-light model will help.

 

Magna will get warrants of up to 6% of Fisker’s equity as part of its deal with the company. Even if you don’t like the company on fundamentals, you must admit that FSR stock is doing well. Shares are up over 1o% in just the last three months. So, a potential 6% stake is undoubtedly valuable.

 

As Marko stated, Tesla and a LOT of other established car companies have electric options now. I think the offering would have to be really compelling to get me to try a new brand and deal with the hassles of version 1. Fisker especially has had a checkered past. Lucid and a few others are trying to go really high end on performance but the market is only so large for $100K USD+ cars. Even less so when the tech bubble bursts again!

[Victoria Watcher]

Electric vehicles are selling in record numbers in British Columbia.

 

The provincial government says more than 54,000 light-duty electric vehicles were registered in B.C. last year.

 

Energy Minister Bruce Ralston says that's the highest reported uptake rate of electric vehicles in North America, making the province a leader in the industry.

 

https://www.timescol...ions-1.24303885

 

 

 

 

articles like that with no context are quite useless.  how many cars total were sold in BC?  what were previous sales levels for electrics?

 

we have about 14% of the national population and there are about 2M car sales per year.

 

sounds like we sell 280,000 a year.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 06 April 2021 - 01:43 PM.

[sebberry]

Still a lot cheaper to gas up my car than to finance an electric car.

[rjag]

EV’s in BC are about 4% of the fleet. That’s after a decade of taxpayer subsidies.

[Tom Braybrook]

EV’s in BC are about 4% of the fleet. That’s after a decade of taxpayer subsidies.

damn EV subsidies...i mean, next thing you know in order to keep the cost of gasoline and i.c.e. cars down  oil companies and the automotive industry are going to start asking for handouts too ;-)

 

https://www.huffingt...5b67259f8943314

[MarkoJ]

EV’s in BC are about 4% of the fleet. That’s after a decade of taxpayer subsidies.

 

That number is about to explode in next 5 years subsidies or not. I recently bought an ICE car as a spare and while fun like owing a horse, crap it is like going back to the stone ages after 6 years with an electric. 200,000 km and still on the original brake pads. There is so little maintenance I need to book a safety inspection as the last time, other than tires, anyone looked at the car was at 130,000 km. Cost savings is one thing but the time savings of not having to drop it off at a dealership for oil changes and other BS is even better.

[Tom Braybrook]

https://www.vw.ca/en...hicles/id4.html

[Szeven]

The Bolt EUV looks good to me. I'm considering trading in our 2nd car for one in a year or so.

[LJ]

That number is about to explode in next 5 years subsidies or not. I recently bought an ICE car as a spare and while fun like owing a horse, crap it is like going back to the stone ages after 6 years with an electric. 200,000 km and still on the original brake pads. There is so little maintenance I need to book a safety inspection as the last time, other than tires, anyone looked at the car was at 130,000 km. Cost savings is one thing but the time savings of not having to drop it off at a dealership for oil changes and other BS is even better.

My dealership comes and picks up my car, gives me a loaner to use, and doesn't charge for the service.

[max.bravo]

^and you pay for that level of service whether you realize it or not

[qv]

EV’s in BC are about 4% of the fleet. That’s after a decade of taxpayer subsidies.

Right, that was to spur demand while EVs were new and companies started bringing them to market. They've matured a lot in that decade as technology has improved, and are much easier to own for mainstream buyers. If you believe that cutting emissions is important and you want to do that in the framework of individual car ownership, then subsidies make a ton of sense.

Edited by qv, 08 April 2021 - 09:23 PM.

[LJ]

The BOE report

 

https://boereport.co...-hot-dog-stand/