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#5341 Moderation

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 07:03 PM

Perhaps more facts rather than speculation and opinion might be of use. Despite all the facts some people will not get vaccinated.

 

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#5342 Mike K.

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 07:05 PM

Nowadays it’s actually got a shelf life of about 30 days before it starts to degrade.

But you put fuel stabilizer in the tank before you go on vacation, and you don’t fill up a full tank. It’ll last a year that way.

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 07:14 PM

Oh but hold on, we’re talking about emissions here, that are harmful, and not maintenance costs. Your EV is constantly needing to draw power, and not many places have the advantage of BC’s clean hydro so the pollution is some place else.

 

Remember, only 19% of BC's power comes from clean hydro.


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Posted 12 October 2021 - 07:24 PM

More than 90% of BC Hydro's generation is produced by hydroelectric generation, which is generally the most cost-effective, clean and reliable option. We also ...
 
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#5345 LJ

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 07:31 PM

From BC Hydro e-mail

 

Our plan to shift energy use away from fossil fuels

Electricity's slice of the energy pie in B.C. is only 19%. Read our plan to change that to help fight climate change. Learn more


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Posted 12 October 2021 - 08:26 PM

The power that goes into your electric car is over 90% from Hydro. If we want that overall 19% to increase, we need more electric cars.
And yes, we do want that. The biggest drawback of electric cars is the battery. Battery tech has significantly improved because r and d is finally focusing on commercializing decades of battery research. That includes efficiency and minimizing environmental costs.
Where electricity comes from is not a car technology problem. That’s a government problem. Be thankful we can generate Hydronelectricity here, and I hope BC Hydro can keep on top of the demand surge that is coming.

#5347 Mike K.

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Posted 12 October 2021 - 09:07 PM

The electric engine lasts 2-5 times (miles) longer than the ICE. And it’s cheaper to replace.

And the battery pack has gone down in cost by 90% in just the last 12 years.

Today’s batteries will last 1 million miles.

I think most cars will rattle apart before they need a new engine.

Now the thing about batteries is they lose capacity over time, so it’s up to you as the motorist if less distance is ok. It just might be if you start with 500km then end up at 400km once your battery warranty expires. But within a decade you’re either trading up, or looking at a battery replacement. Either way, neither option is green, or cheap: https://www.thedrive...ttery-longevity

This problem could eventually begin to hurt the fragile reputation of EVs for being throwaway cars, and due to Tesla's scale, the automaker may fall victim to this blemish before its competitors.


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Posted 13 October 2021 - 01:07 PM

An electric car might lose its charge in 3 months. That’s $15 in power. A tiny blip. Not significant.

Your ICE burns $15 in oil in that time and needs new spark plugs annually. That’ll cost you and the planet more.

 

My ICE car burns no oil and spark plugs aren't recommended until 80,000km.  You need a better ICE car.

 

Some people like to pay more up front for an electric car, others are OK buying an ICE car and paying little bits down the road for maintenance.  Not everyone can afford option 1.


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#5349 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 October 2021 - 01:14 PM

You need a better ICE car.

 

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Posted 13 October 2021 - 02:54 PM

Volkswagen is considering cutting up to 30,000 jobs to cut costs and improve competitiveness with players such as Tesla, German daily Handelsblatt reported on Wednesday.

 

It cited a presentation made by Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess to the supervisory board.

 

“There is no question that we have to address the competitiveness of our plant in Wolfsburg in view of new market entrants,” VW spokesperson Michael Manske said when asked for comment.

 

https://www.reuters....t-idUSL8N2R91LK


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Posted 13 October 2021 - 03:09 PM

 
 
 
How long does a car last on average?In the past, the average lifespan of a car was significantly lower than it is today. Now, you can expect a standard car to last around 12 years or about 200,000 miles. More advanced vehicles like electric cars can go even longer, up to 300,000 miles.Oct. 8, 2020Experiences from repair shops from just about every corner of the land has shown that the most mainstream and top-selling vehicles are designed, engineered, and constructed to provide a 10-year/250,000-km lifespan with a reasonable amount of maintenance and repair.Jul. 16, 201How long does a car last on average?
 
 
In the past, the average lifespan of a car was significantly lower than it is today. Now, you can expect a standard car to last around 12 years or about 200,000 miles. More advanced vehicles like electric cars can go even longer, up to 300,000 miles.Oct. 8, 2


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Posted 13 October 2021 - 07:29 PM

The power that goes into your electric car is over 90% from Hydro. If we want that overall 19% to increase, we need more electric cars.
And yes, we do want that. The biggest drawback of electric cars is the battery. Battery tech has significantly improved because r and d is finally focusing on commercializing decades of battery research. That includes efficiency and minimizing environmental costs.
Where electricity comes from is not a car technology problem. That’s a government problem. Be thankful we can generate Hydronelectricity here, and I hope BC Hydro can keep on top of the demand surge that is coming.

Where are you getting the figure of 90%? I would like it to be true, but BC Hydro says it's not.

 

Water powers B.C., but not as much as it could. With about 70% of energy use in B.C. still coming from fossil fuels, BC Hydro has launched an electrification plan – including new heat pump rebates – that'll help you make the switch to water power. This month, Dave and Jaclyn tell us all about it while introducing a contest featuring weekly prizes and a grand prize of a 65-inch LG TV. We also look at heat pump mythsthe magic of draftproofing, and a new online marketplace where you'll soon be able to buy energy-efficient products we recommend. And after a hot, dry summer, be prepared for a what could be a severe storm season.


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Posted 13 October 2021 - 08:07 PM

70% of total energy use in BC, including natural gas and home heating oils.  BC Hydro is almost all watermills and windmills.
 
"With an average of 98% of its electricity generation coming from clean or renewable resources (primarily hydroelectric generation), B.C. is the cleanest jurisdiction in western North America."
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Posted 13 October 2021 - 08:23 PM

I feel like we've been saying this to LJ for a week straight now  :banana:


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Posted 14 October 2021 - 02:51 AM

Where are you getting the figure of 90%? I would like it to be true, but BC Hydro says it's not.

 

Water powers B.C., but not as much as it could. With about 70% of energy use in B.C. still coming from fossil fuels, BC Hydro has launched an electrification plan – including new heat pump rebates – that'll help you make the switch to water power. This month, Dave and Jaclyn tell us all about it while introducing a contest featuring weekly prizes and a grand prize of a 65-inch LG TV. We also look at heat pump mythsthe magic of draftproofing, and a new online marketplace where you'll soon be able to buy energy-efficient products we recommend. And after a hot, dry summer, be prepared for a what could be a severe storm season.

 

you keep mixing up "energy" with "electricity".


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Posted 14 October 2021 - 07:39 PM

I feel like we've been saying this to LJ for a week straight now  :banana:

The penny just dropped!!! :redface:


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Posted 15 October 2021 - 08:45 AM

Tesla Cybertruck Page Updated... With Removal Of Specs And Price

 

Does this make it seem like Tesla will launch the Cybertruck next year as planned or postpone it yet again?

 

 

https://insideevs.co...-price-removed/

 

For almost two years, since the Cybertruck was unveiled back in 2019Tesla kept the specs for three versions of the truck on its website. They were for a $39,900 single-motor base model, a $49,900 dual-motor mid-range model and the top of the range tri-motor Cybertruck costing from $69,900, but now all specs, versions and prices have been removed.


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Posted 15 October 2021 - 10:00 AM

I don't think Tesla expected Ford and GM to move so quickly into the EV realm with vehicles that are familiar and do not carry the negative connotation of the CT.


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Posted 15 October 2021 - 10:38 AM

I don't think Tesla expected Ford and GM to move so quickly into the EV realm with vehicles that are familiar and do not carry the negative connotation of the CT.

 

On the contrary, I think he just wanted to see more EV development...

 

"Elon Musk wouldn’t lose too much sleep if Tesla went under, because he’s got bigger things on his plate. Well, kind of, anyway. He wants electric vehicles to be successful, even if the company he’s helped to build up is dissolved in the process."

 

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Posted 15 October 2021 - 10:45 AM

^ 2 year old article.

before Tesla became the highest valued car builder ever in history.

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