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[todd]

I guess it provides me privacy from the general public

[aastra]

As a compromise I suppose you could put somebody else's name and phone number on it.

[rmpeers]

Vote for a different mayor and council in 2022.

Seriously, just how much do they love crime? They literally do everything possible to enable crime. Tent cities, mayors awards for people who commit crimes, more tent cities, defund police, no more police checks...

[pennymurphy2000]

The photos are on our Facebook page. What a nightmare.

Beacon Hill Park Bicycle ‘Chop-Shop’ Under Investigation


 

No wonder the Mayor asked people to stop taking photos. It is really hard to tell people things are fine when the photos give proof of a rather grim state of affairs. 

[todd]

As a compromise I suppose you could put somebody else's name and phone number on it.

Can I use yours?

[todd]

How about a QR code that you can lock/unlock?

[todd]

The photos are on our Facebook page. What a nightmare.

 

Just like gone in 60 seconds.

[lanforod]

Why can't VicPD run more bait bike programs? nothing fancy, just a bike with hidden GPS trackers. Lock them up downtown in common spots with standard locks, and wait and see. Shouldn't be hard to find more chop shops and thieves.

[todd]

^ I heard they have and the bait bikes are everywhere

[Mike K.]

They are. But the issue is the law has no teeth. You can’t red zone someone any more, the law doesn’t want to prosecute petty theft, and VicPD are dealing with an ever larger pool of the same faces doing the same crimes.

Going by the press releases of late they wait for enough stolen items to be accumulated to charge them with theft over $5,000.

[Rob Randall]

All this talk, more security, cops, bait bikes, it's all fine but we are talking about a travelling monster that invades neighbourhoods and has an insatiable hunger for anything that can be sold for money. No amount of rehab or enforcement can tamp it down. 

 

We must start giving out free drugs--with strings attached.

 

It won't solve the problem on its own, no way. But without it neighbourhood security can't happen. 

[Mike K.]

Forget that. The heavy users are after fentanyl within the supply. The government will provide a basic drug that the users won’t want, so users will start mixing supplies themselves, and that’ll lead to even more overdoses as street-side pharmacies start showing up, and the theft will continue to pay for non-government supply.

Say what you will about the war on drugs, but it’s not a coincidence that as society backed off drug enforcement, drug use and associated criminality have exploded.

[A Girl is No one]

No wonder the Mayor asked people to stop taking photos. It is really hard to tell people things are fine when the photos give proof of a rather grim state of affairs.

I just saw the pictures. That’s a lot of stolen bikes for such a short time - even if we go back to mid March. Victoria is a small city. The number of bikes in those pictures is surprisingly large. And we know there are other bike chop shops in town too. It’s a tough go being a bike rider/owner In Vic. Not conducive to buying a bike.

[spanky123]

Why can't VicPD run more bait bike programs? nothing fancy, just a bike with hidden GPS trackers. Lock them up downtown in common spots with standard locks, and wait and see. Shouldn't be hard to find more chop shops and thieves.

 

The only reason why the cops went after this chop shop is because a facebook user started posting and sharing pictures and it became an embarrassment for VicPD. There was a huge chop shop operating in plain view on the median on Pandora St during the last siege and the cops did nothing about that.

Edited by spanky123, 15 July 2020 - 07:51 AM.

[Mike K.]

Interesting.

 

Meanwhile the mayor is asking that the public not photograph the encampments or the people within. It would see that there is a connection here.

 

In Sooke the mayor there is saying that it's not appropriate to discuss the upcoming location of a temporary shelter space to protect the residents' privacy. The location had long since been outed online, and eventually the media picked up on the story, but the mayor kept insisting it's BC Housing's plan, not theirs, so they won't comment on it. The mayor also said while a shelter was operating at the CRD's SEAPARC facility earlier this year the only incidents worthy of public attention were from regular citizens bothering the residents.

[todd]

Forget that. The heavy users are after fentanyl within the supply. The government will provide a basic drug that the users won’t want, so users will start mixing supplies themselves, and that’ll lead to even more overdoses as street-side pharmacies start showing up, and the theft will continue to pay for non-government supply.
Say what you will about the war on drugs, but it’s not a coincidence that as society backed off drug enforcement, drug use and associated criminality have exploded.

Then give them fentanyl if they want it.

[Victoria Watcher]

the “give them free drugs” crowd fails to consider that overdoses will occur when people take too much heroin or whatever. the cost is part of what keeps overconsumption down.

[Rob Randall]

Well, it wouldn't be unlimited drugs. Like I say there would be strings attached. You'll never eliminate the dealers completely of course, this is just a tool to leverage other options. 

[Victoria Watcher]

as you know with methadone they must consume the dose on the spot. that’s one reason it’s not popular. hard to hoard or trade or sell.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 July 2020 - 09:56 AM.

[todd]

As far as I’m concerned they have the right to overdose.