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[Midnightly]

"food justice" is that this seasons most recent catch phrase?

[Victoria Watcher]

Midnight and the Council meeting is still going on. 

 

Young says that CoV taxing citizens 500,000 a year to acquire farmland is not a small matter - Collins says this "hopefully" will be accepted by North Saanich, etc, is for "food justice".....Issit says this is 1/100th of a police budget.  Passed!

 

finally we own a state-run collective farm.  comrades.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 May 2019 - 03:24 AM.

[Tom Braybrook]

finally we own a state-run collective farm.  comrade

"Strengthen Working Discipline in Collective Farms"

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[Tom Braybrook]

finally we own a state-run collective farm.  comrades.

i can't be sure but i think i can spot isitt, dubow and collins in this photo  ;-)

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Edited by tommy, 24 May 2019 - 07:35 AM.

[Mike K.]

Meanwhile 99.999% of the food we consume in this region will still originate from outside of this region.

..,pumpkins notwithstanding.

Now imagine if the money going toward this communal farm were diverted towards food banks and agencies that volunteer to feed the needy. Millions of dollars would guarantee many years of provisions.

[Awaiting Juno]

How about we leave the farming to the farmers?  Really.  Yet another pet project that is throwing tax payer's dollars, without a clear mandate to do so, at an issue that is not the city's to solve.  

[Victoria Watcher]

what is the issue theoretically being solved?

[RFS]

The pampered and decadent academics on council want to play farmer

[Awaiting Juno]

The truly sad thing, is the election was less than a year ago.  We're less than 25% of the way into this new circus - and the tab that'll accrue by the time the next election happens will be painful.  Worse yet, by the time that rolls around, how many more "bought and paid for" via free food and housing "residents" will CoV have?  And all they have to do is vote, and the council will make that so incredibly easy for them to do so, by having polling stations right where they live.  All of it just illustrates in painful detail why amalgamation is needed more than ever.  It's too easy for people who really shouldn't be electable to win in the City of Victoria - in part because those who should be on council, don't want any part of the nightmare/circus that has been created (ie. meetings that last into midnight to ban horsedrawn carriages on completely fabricated grounds of animal welfare), and those same people have been made unelectable because they refuse to chase priorities well outside of their mandate.  They won't win because they understand that it isn't their job to eliminate poverty, eradicate homelessness, reverse climate change, and ensure all food consumed in the region is local.  They won't win because all they want to do is ensure that the city runs smoothly for those who live and work here, by ensure that there is adequate police services, that the roads are cleaned and maintained and that businesses want to operate in the city - in short the job a council should focus on.       

[spanky123]

^ by the same token, you are outlining the reasons why no other muni would want to amalgamate with Victoria.  

[rjag]

^ by the same token, you are outlining the reasons why no other muni would want to amalgamate with Victoria.  

 

And I think therein lies the conundrum. It would all be based on how the voting was organised. If it was a ward system then the opportunity may be there for folks with outlandish view to continue to be elected. However I think if you looked at the demographics of Saanich I doubt highly if these folks would survive 1 term.

 

My gut feeling is this experiment wont see the light of day because of the antics of Isitt. 

[Nparker]

^ by the same token, you are outlining the reasons why no other muni would want to amalgamate with Victoria.  

Be that as it may, the other munis should probably watch out 'cuz the crazy that starts in Victoria is beginning to spread further. How many others are now contemplating "single use" bag bans? Expensive bike lanes that are used by only a tiny fraction of the population? It would be better for the whole region to treat CoV politics like a cancer and eradicate it before it can infect the rest.

[Midnightly]

Be that as it may, the other munis should probably watch out 'cuz the crazy that starts in Victoria is beginning to spread further. How many others are now contemplating "single use" bag bans? Expensive bike lanes that are used by only a tiny fraction of the population? It would be better for the whole region to treat CoV politics like a cancer and eradicate it before it can infect the rest.

 

 

i think that if amalgamated it would eradicate the crazy rather then spread it...since the numbers in saanich (which would be the most likely amalgamation to start with) wildly out number those of little Victoria proper.. i think many of our current council would be laughed at if they tried to run in an amalgamated city and things like plastic bag bans, straw bans, very expensive bike lanes along with other issues a city shouldn't be making a priority (climate crisis for example, free bus passes for all) wouldn't have a chance to take hold or even make it on the slate

[Nparker]

i think that if amalgamated it would eradicate the crazy rather then spread it....

That was sort of my point. Without amalgamation, CoV politics will only become worse and their ideas are likely to spread even to the saner parts of the region.

[Love the rock]

Thinking that the group that have a voting voice in city council wouldn’t be elected in an amalgamation is a huge mistake. It could happen nothing to stop rising taxes, rising pet projects and the down fall of basic services. If Lias or Ben had easy access to vast tax dollars who knows what they would do . Free bus passes would have been approved without a second thought. Bike lanes to all the best farms and city owned low income housing units . Neither Lisa or Ben are stupid . I never thought Lisa would get in for a second term . To me it was obvious she had screwed up .Do not underestimate the ability of anyone to get elected or that general public will vote .

[Midnightly]

Thinking that the group that have a voting voice in city council wouldn’t be elected in an amalgamation is a huge mistake. It could happen nothing to stop rising taxes, rising pet projects and the down fall of basic services. If Lias or Ben had easy access to vast tax dollars who knows what they would do . Free bus passes would have been approved without a second thought. Bike lanes to all the best farms and city owned low income housing units . Neither Lisa or Ben are stupid . I never thought Lisa would get in for a second term . To me it was obvious she had screwed up .Do not underestimate the ability of anyone to get elected or that general public will vote .

 

 

we all know Victoria council likes to throw out crazy ideas and often forget what their key job is (running the municipality not fighting the bigger fight on things like climate change and food crisis or trying to do things well beyond what they can afford, the pool, bus passes for all) but how does saanich council fair for these sorts of crazy antics? are they more central level headed? (how many artists in residence does saanich have? victoria has what 3 or 4 now or is it more?) in the last dozen or so years has the saanich mayor ever taken a trip on the city dime for a greater good style project that isn't directly related to running the city?

[Sparky]

This might answer your question.

https://www.vicnews....y-relationship/

[Love the rock]

Last thing we need is a Lisa Helps running Victoria and Saanich.
So far Saanich appears more level headed.
I think Lisa and Ben would do well on one of the smaller islands .

[tedward]

Last thing we need is a Lisa Helps running Victoria and Saanich.

 

Do you really think Helps would have won that election?

[spanky123]

Do you really think Helps would have won that election?

 

The one thing that NDP has shown is that they are extremely good at getting out the vote.