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[Nparker]

....Helps doesn't mention the good relationship the cruise lines have with local non profits at their ports of call 

Why would she? That doesn't play to her base.

[rjag]

Why would she? That doesn't play to her base.

 

except a lot of her base benefits from said goodwill...go figure

[On the Level]

I think we are onto something here!  There is a lot we could do.

 

if you think alot comes out of hotels.. just imagine how much comes out of hospitals! nearly everything in hospitals is wrapped in plastic

 

Aren't those needles single use?  How wasteful.  Why hasn't the CoV banned them?  If we stop handing them out like candy downtown, then people will start reusing them in the spirit of the climate emergency.

 

The times you see a lot of crew spending time ashore in town are spring and fall, when the ships come in for longer layovers and-or refits.

 

Most are just in port for a day or possibly two.  Then they are heading off to their next port.  I am just curious, how long would the extension cord need to be so they can plug in at their next port?

[Nparker]

except a lot of her base benefits from said goodwill...go figure

Envirosocialst irony.

[LJ]

i'm not sure about your math here.  that's not 168000 persons worth of all-month garbage.  that's for their 4-8 hour stay.  

 

does this mean the ships are dropping garbage here in bulk?  if that's the case it's probably just because it's cheap to do it here (compared to seattle).

 

does the city take any position on the $2 or $3 per hour some cruise staff earn while in port here?

 

with a cabin steward earning between “$650 and $1,150 per month.”

 

 

https://www.cruzely....-its-employees/

You keep harping on the low wages omitting the fact that they get free room and board and gratuities in the order of $5 per day per person. They are well recompensed for what they do or they wouldn't do it.

[Victoria Watcher]

You keep harping on the low wages omitting the fact that they get free room and board and gratuities in the order of $5 per day per person. They are well recompensed for what they do or they wouldn't do it.

 

i know.  and those that line up for miles to apply for sweatshop jobs in bangladesh are also well-compensated compared to their contemporaries in the fields.  

 

i don't even have a big issue with it. 

 

in fact i'll be starting a passenger ferry service next year from sidney pier to a dock near boundary bay airport that stops for a bit in point roberts on the way.  my ship will be flagged panamanian and my crew will all be filipino.   i've already got hundreds of applications for the $400/mo. onboard jobs.  just 60 hours a week but the big kicker is the free room and board.  and the $5/day in tips.

 

all joking aside though it's just the hypocrisy of it.  i think we have some type of living wage provision in the city of victoria for all workers and contractors to the city but here we have third-world wages being paid - to thousands of workers every day - right in our outer harbour all summer.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 12 October 2019 - 12:20 PM.

[Nparker]

...we have third-world wages being paid - to thousands of workers every day - right in our outer harbour all summer.

Any of whom are welcome to immigrate to Canada through proper channels in order to achieve better wages and a higher standard of living.

[Victoria Watcher]

Any of whom are welcome to immigrate to Canada through proper channels in order to achieve better wages and a higher standard of living.

 

workers have left the ships before here and asked for asylum indeed.  just a couple years ago no?  one guy had an apb put out on him when he did not return to the ship.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 12 October 2019 - 04:10 PM.

[SimonH]

Next time anyone is on a cruise ship why not ask them how happy or unhappy they are with their lot. I know what 99% will say.

[Victoria Watcher]

yes and some of the happiest people in the world live in poverty in africa too. they are very happy with their lot.

[LJ]

I was just in Morocco where some people live on very little, they are not necessarily happy with their lot but they are accepting of itl 

[rmpeers]

I was just in Morocco where some people live on very little, they are not necessarily happy with their lot but they are accepting of itl

Sounds like me when the property tax bill arrives.

[Mike K.]

Just a quick note about school bus operations within SD61, I counted eight cheeseboxes at E’cole Brodeur today. I can imagine there are other schools with special programs where students are bussed in.

[Victoria Watcher]

 E’cole Brodeur 

 

clearly you never took french lessons.  immersion or otherwise.

 

tes they appear to have 13 bus runs each day:

 

https://brodeur.csf....s-2018-2019.pdf

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 October 2019 - 08:04 AM.

[gstc84]

... I counted eight cheeseboxes ...

 

Just gotta ask, is "cheeseboxes" a regional term? Or from before my time? I've never heard it before this thread.

[Jackerbie]

Just gotta ask, is "cheeseboxes" a regional term? Or from before my time? I've never heard it before this thread.

 

"Cheesebox" is new to me, I know them as cheese wagons

[RFS]

I’ve never heard them called anything but school bus

[DavidC]

Just gotta ask, is "cheeseboxes" a regional term? Or from before my time? I've never heard it before this thread.

Ditto.  Last time I rode the bus to school was 40 years ago and I have never heard the term used.

[Victoria Watcher]

I’ve never heard them called anything but school bus

me too. or la boite fromage when I was in school.

[Awaiting Juno]

Just a quick note about school bus operations within SD61, I counted eight cheeseboxes at E’cole Brodeur today. I can imagine there are other schools with special programs where students are bussed in.

 

Brodeur is an exception - it is a francophone school and as such the catchment boundaries don't apply.  As an aside, I believe at least one parent must speak french as their mother tongue in order to qualify to attend Brodeur.