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#2361 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 06:26 AM

I'm not that concerned by what Macron says.  Or Trudeau.

 

Can ANY of you honestly say we'd be in worse shape today, if everyone was vaccinated?  I know we would be way better off in terms of hospitals.  Hospitalizations would be 1/2 or only 2/3 what they are today, ICU's almost certainly at least half as busy.

 

I'm not in favour of vaccine mandates, but I do recognize that vaccines are working.  

 

And I'm triple-vaxxed too.

 

I don't understand why almost anyone over say 45 or 50 is not taking the vaccine.  I do not want to force them to take it, but their reasons for not taking it don't ever resonate with me.


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Posted 08 January 2022 - 06:30 AM

You can’t just dismiss what the leaders of countries/provinces are saying. These people have a very big voice that carries and they make the rules.
When they start othering their own people, it deeply disturbs me and it should disturb us all IMO.

#2363 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 06:42 AM

A lot of politicians have have been put in no-win situations. 



#2364 Mike K.

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 09:11 AM

No-win situations, but they haven’t exactly been leading by example.

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#2365 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 09:17 AM

Look at a guy like Kenney.

Almost every decision he makes one way or another is met with intense criticism. Whether he opens schools or closes schools or hosts the Juniors or doesn’t. Or went ahead with the Stampede or didn’t. Every single move was wrong to a huge percentage of the population.

It’s only because people on the right are nicer that Horgan and Henry don’t get the same.

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#2366 spanky123

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 11:13 AM

^ Two reasons.

 

Most media is center or left leaning in Canada. Kenney is a conservative which means anything he does is bad. No different then what we see in the US with polarized media.

 

Secondly, in BC information is managed. Kids being sent back to schools, worried about blowback from infections - no problem we just won't report infections anymore!



#2367 Matt R.

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 01:59 PM

Matt I couldn't disagree more with what you have said here.

 

Try walking though a mall with no mask on, its ok you won't die, less words can kill.

 

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I am not worried one bit.  Have you tried not living in fear?  It's great.


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Posted 08 January 2022 - 02:28 PM

I am not worried one bit.  Have you tried not living in fear?  It's great.

 

People do tend to eat more when they are nervous :-)


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Posted 08 January 2022 - 07:47 PM

I am not worried one bit.  Have you tried not living in fear?  It's great.

 

 

People do tend to eat more when they are nervous :-)

 

 

Matt, do you have “food challenge” item on your menu?  Something like: https://youtu.be/8PTztQsjjSs?t=68

 

Maybe a platter of: hamburger, pulled pork burger, lamb burger, and salmon burger.

With a pound of poutine on the side, and slab of nanaimo bar for dessert.


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#2370 Matt R.

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Posted 08 January 2022 - 09:34 PM

Ooh no we don’t but I’ve seen people sub crispy chicken breasts for buns, I’ve seen people add lamb and chicken to their beef burgers, etc to make these monster meals.

One time we had a person shove their adult diaper way up into the wall cavity behind the towel dispenser at the Marina after brunch so I don’t want to play too many games like that anymore.

Today we had a person order an omelette and ask to sub out their home fries for seafood chowder. I’ve also seen people ask for gravy in their omelet. I don’t even know how that would work.

#2371 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 08:27 AM

A court has ruled that temporary layoffs due to covid are "constructive dismissal".

 

Many lawsuits now to follow.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 08:52 AM

A court has ruled that temporary layoffs due to covid are "constructive dismissal".

 

Many lawsuits now to follow.

 

I would like to see the circumstances VW so please post the link.

 

I don't doubt you though and this is a point I made back in summer 2020. Lots of people were laid off which transitioned into effective termination as the layoffs extended well past the 13 weeks permitted by law. The NDP let this linger and didn't deal with it from a legislative standpoint so I fully expect that now that CERB and other benefits have run out folks will be seeking pay in lieu of notice. This should finish off a lot of small businesses if allowed to proceed. 


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#2373 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 09:03 AM

I’m just hearing bits in labour law circles.

The ruling was yesterday, wait a moment for a few news links.

#2374 Matt R.

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 01:16 PM

I would like to see the circumstances VW so please post the link.
 
I don't doubt you though and this is a point I made back in summer 2020. Lots of people were laid off which transitioned into effective termination as the layoffs extended well past the 13 weeks permitted by law. The NDP let this linger and didn't deal with it from a legislative standpoint so I fully expect that now that CERB and other benefits have run out folks will be seeking pay in lieu of notice. This should finish off a lot of small businesses if allowed to proceed.


Glad we hired them all back! This is a cluster.

#2375 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 01:58 PM

City of Victoria staff vaccine mandate sees 25 put on unpaid leave

98 per cent of staff produced proof of vaccination ahead of Jan. 5 deadline

https://www.vicnews....n-unpaid-leave/

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#2376 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 13 January 2022 - 11:53 AM

The Supreme Court on Thursday blocked the Biden administration from enforcing its sweeping vaccine-or-test requirements for large private companies, but allowed similar requirements to stand for medical facilities that take Medicare or Medicaid payments.

 

The rulings came three days after the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s emergency measure started to take effect.

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com...e-mandates.html



#2377 Matt R.

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Posted 15 January 2022 - 11:31 PM

Trucker protest convoy GFM hitting $100k in a day.

https://www.gofundme...Mapenhpqh-XCjQ4

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Posted 18 January 2022 - 12:20 PM

Trucker protest convoy hit its $300k goal and moved the goalposts to $400k.

Hit 455 and now shooting for 500! Truckers gone wild!

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#2379 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 January 2022 - 10:32 AM

Canada's inflation rate rises to new 30-year high of 4.8%

https://www.cbc.ca/n...anada-1.6320085

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#2380 spanky123

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Posted 19 January 2022 - 10:37 AM

^ If you believe Statscan, Scotiabank doesn't and thinks that they give fake numbers by understating the rate.

 

https://www.scotiaba...-15--2021-.html



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