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#1621 Rob Randall

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 02:22 PM

Like the young women I saw rooting through a dumpster for things to sell. She said it's either that, or steal or sell her body. The cash to feed an addiction has to come from somewhere.


“I mean I just don’t understand the big Texas part, like maybe he’s from Texas? I want to know the back story.”


#1622 Ismo07

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 02:53 PM

I'm not talking about cars, I'm talking about survival crime becoming an organized crime problem in other jurisdictions, and Victoria council discussing survival crime without taking into consideration the ramifications, just like they didn't plan on an organized crime ring operating beside the mayor's office from within tents they thought housed people who didn't have homes.

 

I used car break-ins as an example, but it's not the issue.

 

You started on stereos going missing out of cars and citing organized crime using poverty as a scapegoat.  You are saying many things I'm only responding to a few of them.  Yes there are other things going on but I'm trying to focus.  I'm just not agreeing how organized the crimes are like car break-ins and shoplifting.. The drug issue is completely different.  All over the map here.


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#1623 Mike K.

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 02:55 PM

I know I started with stereos.  :rtfm:


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#1624 Greg

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 02:59 PM

I think the point is that if you don't pursue "survival" crimes, you create an opportunity for people who commit crimes for simple profit to also take advantage of those loopholes. Dress poorly, and steal for a living with no concern about being prosecuted, while destroying the livelihood of people running businesses in the community. It's a recipe for a very bad outcome. CoV councilors should try showing empathy for cohorts other than just the addicted.


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#1625 Mike K.

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 03:23 PM

My point exactly. Thank you.


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#1626 A Girl is No one

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 04:21 PM

I think the point is that if you don't pursue "survival" crimes, you create an opportunity for people who commit crimes for simple profit to also take advantage of those loopholes. Dress poorly, and steal for a living with no concern about being prosecuted, while destroying the livelihood of people running businesses in the community. It's a recipe for a very bad outcome. CoV councilors should try showing empathy for cohorts other than just the addicted.

Exactly...
And can someone please explain to me why people need to do crime to survive when we have an annual $4 billion/63,000 jobs charitable industry in greater Victoria alone?

« A sector that is often overlooked when discussing economic performance but deserves to be mentioned due to its impact is the charitable sector. According to a recent report published in partnership by the Victoria Foundation and University of Victoria, the civil society contributes economic activity of just over $4 billion to the Greater Victoria region which supports the equivalent of 63,000 jobs.« 

https://downtownvict...-2019_Final.pdf
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#1627 Mike K.

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 05:45 PM

It’s closer to $5 billion now, btw, if not higher.

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#1628 spanky123

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Posted 31 May 2021 - 05:50 PM

It’s closer to $5 billion now, btw, if not higher.


And perhaps the only sector where the worse you do the more money you get.
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#1629 Ismo07

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 07:55 AM

I think the point is that if you don't pursue "survival" crimes, you create an opportunity for people who commit crimes for simple profit to also take advantage of those loopholes. Dress poorly, and steal for a living with no concern about being prosecuted, while destroying the livelihood of people running businesses in the community. It's a recipe for a very bad outcome. CoV councilors should try showing empathy for cohorts other than just the addicted.

 

But my question is when did we really pursue these crimes in the first place?  There has always been shoplifting, vehicle break-ins and such.  Small stuff, rarely pursued...



#1630 Greg

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 08:18 AM

I'm sure they weren't high priorities. But I'm also sure city officials didn't publicly express a stated policy of utter indifference. 


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#1631 Ismo07

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 08:36 AM

So after the announcement for relief of restrictions we saw just over an 8% increase in parking transactions on street from the previous week. (Tuesday trough the following Monday - 7 days).  13% increase in the only 2 parkades that we have the data for at this time.  (Johnson and Centennial).


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#1632 A Girl is No one

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 09:10 AM

So after the announcement for relief of restrictions we saw just over an 8% increase in parking transactions on street from the previous week. (Tuesday trough the following Monday - 7 days). 13% increase in the only 2 parkades that we have the data for at this time. (Johnson and Centennial).

That’s good news! I’d love to see downtown regain its vibrancy and safe/peaceful vibe (right now it’s « vibrant » in a completely different way).

#1633 spanky123

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 11:35 AM

So the net impact of Trudeau's covid spending was record corporate profits and the bulk of the money going to the rich! https://www.bnnbloom...dians-1.1611069

 

Who could have predicted that ... other than me?!


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#1634 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 01 June 2021 - 12:17 PM

It’s still early to say how the post-pandemic work environment will look. Only about 28% of U.S. office workers are back at their buildings, according to an index of 10 metro areas compiled by security company Kastle Systems. Many employers are still being lenient with policies as the virus lingers, vaccinations continue to roll out and childcare situations remain erratic.

 

But as office returns accelerate, some employees may want different options. A May survey of 1,000 U.S. adults showed that 39% would consider quitting if their employers weren’t flexible about remote work. The generational difference is clear: Among millennials and Gen Z, that figure was 49%, according to the poll by Morning Consult on behalf of Bloomberg News.

 

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#1635 spanky123

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 10:00 AM

More wage subsidies coming. Must be an election on the horizon.

 

Government of Canada Announces Details of the New Canada Recovery Hiring Program and Extension of Business Support Programs - Canada.ca


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#1636 todd

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 12:05 PM

"UFO sightings in Canada down below pre-pandemic levels": https://www.ctvnews....evels-1.5446116

 

 

"This year has seen a drop in UFO sightings after a sharp rise in 2020, but a Canadian ufologist said it’s not unusual to see these numbers wax and wane..."



#1637 spanky123

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 02:21 PM

^ During the pandemic people had a lot more free time on their hands to do things like experiment with drugs :-)


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#1638 todd

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 02:49 PM

^ During the pandemic people had a lot more free time on their hands to do things like experiment with drugs :-)

Also drones. drones and drugs

#1639 Midnightly

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Posted 02 June 2021 - 08:48 PM

"UFO sightings in Canada down below pre-pandemic levels": https://www.ctvnews....evels-1.5446116

 

 

"This year has seen a drop in UFO sightings after a sharp rise in 2020, but a Canadian ufologist said it’s not unusual to see these numbers wax and wane..."

and we didn't even send our yearly UFO up into the air in 2020


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#1640 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 June 2021 - 10:36 AM

More than $9M in COVID-19 disability payments sent to dead people

 

https://www.ctvnews....eople-1.5453478



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