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[Victoria Watcher]

Three years after the pandemic began, Canada has managed to avoid a severe COVID-19 wave this winter despite a total lack of public health restrictions, a busy indoor holiday season and a rapidly mutating virus that is still very much circulating in the population.

"We are now at a point in Canada where COVID-19 activity has reached a relatively stable state," Canada's chief public health officer, Dr. Theresa Tam, said at a briefing on March 10.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ction-1.6779949

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 March 2023 - 04:32 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

[sebberry]

Three years after the pandemic began, Canada has managed to avoid a severe COVID-19 wave this winter despite a total lack of public health restrictions, a busy indoor holiday season and a rapidly mutating virus that is still very much circulating in the population.

"We are now at a point in Canada where COVID-19 activity has reached a relatively stable state," Canada's chief public health officer, Dr. Theresa Tam, said at a briefing on March 10.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ction-1.6779949

 

Because nobody is recording positive tests.

 

Tell me why excess deaths are so high?

 

 

[max.bravo]

 

 

Tell me why excess deaths are so high?

 

 

 

Vaccine side effects. Seriously.

 

Think about this-- covid deaths (for any variant) have never been a significant cause of death for the 0-45 age group. What we saw over the last 3 years is that covid overwhelmingly kills very old people. In order for covid to be the cause of a 20% spike in excess mortality in a <45 age group would be a massive shift in how we understand covid. It simply cannot be the cause.

 

MRNA vaccines, on the other hand, now have a well documented history of causing heart problems (among other issues), especially in the 0-45 age groups. 

 

So why isn't this being acknowledged? 

First, it is. This has been widely known in the 'anti vax' (aka critical thinking) crowd for over a year now. 

 

But the real problem is twofold: 1) No control group. When the pharma companies received express approval for the vaccines, they abandoned their double blind studies. Seriously. 70%+ of the global population took an experimental genetic therapeutic. This is basic grade 7 science stuff -- you cannot test a hypothesis without a control group. So, scientifically, it's now very difficult to say what precisely is the cause of the excess mortality. 

 

The second issue is human nature. We have governments, business leaders, and everyday people who are highly invested in having been justified in taking the draconian measures they took in 'promoting' vaccine uptake. It takes a very humble politician (with no future political aspirations) to say "we were wrong to have kept you out of movie theatres and public swimming pools for not having consented to our vaccine coercion."

 

Big pharma lied about the efficacy (or guessed, since they didn't have time to test it) and world leaders went ALL IN on the lie. It's very hard for humans to walk-back on having taken too-hard a line on something. 

 

Hope this helps you understand, although I'm sure it won't. But hey, at least you're acknowledging the excess deaths now. I think the 'antivax' brigade informed you about excess mortality quite a long time ago on this forum. Funny how it's not real to you until CBC reports it! Maybe in 5 years they will tell you what I'm telling you now. It's the vaccines. Long covid is also, to a large degree, likely caused by vaccine injuries. But we may never know the true extent because there is no control group. This is a big problem!

[sebberry]

https://www.nih.gov/...nse-vaccination

SARS-CoV-2 infection weakens immune-cell response to vaccination
NIH-funded study suggests need to boost CD8+ T cell response after infection.



The magnitude and quality of a key immune cell’s response to vaccination with two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine were considerably lower in people with prior SARS-CoV-2 infection compared to people without prior infection, a study has found. In addition, the level of this key immune cell that targets the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was substantially lower in unvaccinated people with COVID-19 than in vaccinated people who had never been infected. Importantly, people who recover from SARS-CoV-2 infection and then get vaccinated are more protected than people who are unvaccinated. These findings, which suggest that the virus damages an important immune-cell response, were published today in the journal Immunity.

The study was co-funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, and led by Mark M. Davis, Ph.D. Dr. Davis is the director of the Stanford Institute for Immunity, Transplantation and Infection and a professor of microbiology and immunology at Stanford University School of Medicine in Palo Alto, California. He is also a Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigator.

Dr. Davis and colleagues designed a very sensitive tool to analyze how immune cells called CD4+ T cells and CD8+ T cells respond to SARS-CoV-2 infection and vaccination. These cells coordinate the immune system’s response to the virus and kill other cells that have been infected, helping prevent COVID-19. The tool was designed to identify T cells that target any of dozens of specific regions on the virus’s spike protein as well as some other viral regions. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine uses parts of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to elicit an immune response without causing infection.

The investigators studied CD4+ and CD8+ T-cell responses in blood samples from three groups of volunteers. One group had never been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. The second group had previously been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and received two doses of the vaccine. The third group had COVID-19 and was unvaccinated.

The researchers found that vaccination of people who had never been infected with SARS-CoV-2 induced robust CD4+ and CD8+ T-cell responses to the virus’ spike protein. In addition, these T cells produced multiple types of cell-signaling molecules called cytokines, which recruit other immune cells—including antibody-producing B cells—to fight pathogens. However, people who had been infected with SARS-CoV-2 prior to vaccination produced spike-specific CD8+ T cells at considerably lower levels—and with less functionality—than vaccinated people who had never been infected. Moreover, the researchers observed substantially lower levels of spike-specific CD8+ T cells in unvaccinated people with COVID-19 than in vaccinated people who had never been infected.

Taken together, the investigators write, these findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 infection damages the CD8+ T cell response, an effect akin to that observed in earlier studies showing long-term damage to the immune system after infection with viruses such as hepatitis C or HIV. The new findings highlight the need to develop vaccination strategies to specifically boost antiviral CD8+ T cell responses in people previously infected with SARS-CoV-2, the researchers conclude.

[todd]

Don’t forget your pneumococcal:

“Among adults ages 65 years old and older, those who received the pneumonia vaccine PCV13 had:

35% lower incidence of COVID-19 diagnosis
32% lower incidence of COVID-19 hospitalization
32% lower incidence of COVID-19 death…”
https://about.kaiser...rse-of-covid-19

[sebberry]

Wow, suddenly we have concerning trends with all these seasonal flu related cancers...

 

 

 

Kashyap Patel, MD, CEO of Carolina Blood and Cancer Care Associates, sees something different in his practice since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic—not just with cancer care, but with cancer itself.

Since March 2020, the longtime community oncologist has seen multiple patients in his Rock Hill, South Carolina, based-clinic with cholangiocarcinoma, and these patients are developing the rare cancer 20 to 30 years earlier than the typical age at presentation, which is usually 65 years or older.1 In the past year alone, physicians in Patel’s practice saw 7 patients with this cancer, and 3 have died.

[...]

“The trend is getting more and more alarming,” Patel emphasized. “We are noticing trends in hematological malignancies, breast cancer, colorectal carcinoma, and pancreatic cancer.”

 

 

 

https://www.ajmc.com...omarker-testing

[Mike K.]

Because of the jab, or because they didn’t get the jab? Or because they contracted COVID with the jab, or contracted COVID without the jab? And if they got the jab, which jab did they get? And if they got COVID, which strain did they get? Did they get sick multiple times by different strains?

Lots of hypotheticals here to consider.

[sebberry]

Because of the jab, or because they didn’t get the jab? Or because they contracted COVID with the jab, or contracted COVID without the jab? And if they got the jab, which jab did they get? And if they got COVID, which strain did they get? Did they get sick multiple times by different strains?

Lots of hypotheticals here to consider.

 

I think you completely glossed over the part where the good Doctor said he saw this happening in March 2020, which is a good bit of time before the vaccines.  Most of the other "it's the jab" conspiracy theories have also been debunked... 

[sebberry]

 And if they got COVID, which strain did they get? 

 

That's like saying Granny died from complications related to the seasonal flu, but it was a milder strain of the flu so her death was not as deathy as if it was a stronger strain of the seasonal flu.

[Mike K.]

I think you completely glossed over the part where the good Doctor said he saw this happening in March 2020, which is a good bit of time before the vaccines.  Most of the other "it's the jab" conspiracy theories have also been debunked...

March 2020 is also a good bit of time before people started to get sick from COVID.

[sebberry]

March 2020 is also a good bit of time before people started to get sick from COVID.

 

Not that long before... 

https://www.cnn.com/...sday/index.html

[todd]

“Ebola-like Marburg virus kills five people in Tanzania”: https://www.bbc.com/...ca-65037537.amp


Looks a bit like a sour key or a tent caterpillar

Edited by todd, 26 March 2023 - 01:12 PM.

[sukika]

Vaccine side effects. Seriously.

 

Think about this-- covid deaths (for any variant) have never been a significant cause of death for the 0-45 age group. What we saw over the last 3 years is that covid overwhelmingly kills very old people. In order for covid to be the cause of a 20% spike in excess mortality in a <45 age group would be a massive shift in how we understand covid. It simply cannot be the cause.

 

MRNA vaccines, on the other hand, now have a well documented history of causing heart problems (among other issues), especially in the 0-45 age groups. 

 

So why isn't this being acknowledged? 

First, it is. This has been widely known in the 'anti vax' (aka critical thinking) crowd for over a year now. 

 

The 'anti-vax' crowd seem to only be concerned about heart issues caused by the vaccine, and while ignoring the fact that Covid infections cause the same heart issues.

 

Here is an article from April 24, 2020 talking about Covid-19 and heart damage. 

https://www.hopkinsm...se-heart-damage

 

"Early reports coming out of China and Italy, two areas where COVID-19 took hold earlier in the pandemic, show that up to 1 in 5 patients with the illness end up with heart damage. Heart failure has been the cause of death in COVID-19 patients, even those without severe breathing problems such as acute respiratory distress syndrome, or ARDS."

 

Here is what the same article says about myocarditis since people have only started caring about it since this pandemic:

 

"The coronavirus may infect and damage the heart’s muscle tissue directly, as is possible with other viral infections, including some strains of the flu. The heart may also become damaged and inflamed indirectly by the body’s own immune system response." 

 

Here's some critical thinking: Since vaccines typically cause your body to have an immune response, and myocarditis can be caused by an immune response, it makes sense that it can occur in both vaccinated people and in unvaccinated Covid patients. 

[sebberry]

 


https://twitter.com/...8380914689?s=20

 

https://www.nature.c...467-023-36686-8

[Victoria Watcher]

A group of McMaster University students have ended an eight-day hunger strike, but have vowed to intensify their efforts to get the university in Hamilton to reverse its decision to install four natural gas-powered generators on Cootes Drive. 

 

The McMaster Divestment Project, which organized the strike, said in a news release on Tuesday morning that it called off the "gruelling eight-day hunger strike" due to health and safety concerns.

 

"I am scared to do this, but I am more scared not to," said Mila Py, one of the hunger strikers.

 

"Hunger striking for eight days has numerous negative impacts on health, including deteriorating effects on organs, muscles, cognitive abilities and immune systems," the McMaster Divestment Project said in the release.

 

"With end-of-term activities ramping up on campus and a continued lack of protective measures at the university, the circulation of COVID-19 is likely to increase. This has already impacted the immediate MacDivest community, and COVID-19 infection for any of the hunger strikers would likely lead to severe consequences."

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-ends-1.6793248

 

 

 

Or maybe they just got hungry?    

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 March 2023 - 10:31 AM.

[Ismo07]

 

A group of McMaster University students have ended an eight-day hunger strike, but have vowed to intensify their efforts to get the university in Hamilton to reverse its decision to install four natural gas-powered generators on Cootes Drive. 

 

The McMaster Divestment Project, which organized the strike, said in a news release on Tuesday morning that it called off the "gruelling eight-day hunger strike" due to health and safety concerns.

 

"I am scared to do this, but I am more scared not to," said Mila Py, one of the hunger strikers.

 

"Hunger striking for eight days has numerous negative impacts on health, including deteriorating effects on organs, muscles, cognitive abilities and immune systems," the McMaster Divestment Project said in the release.

 

"With end-of-term activities ramping up on campus and a continued lack of protective measures at the university, the circulation of COVID-19 is likely to increase. This has already impacted the immediate MacDivest community, and COVID-19 infection for any of the hunger strikers would likely lead to severe consequences."

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-ends-1.6793248

 

 

 

Or maybe they just got hungry?    

 

 

Imagine walking past with a bucket of KFC....

[Victoria Watcher]

Maybe tofu.  Pretty sure this clan is vegan.

 

  

[todd]

Maybe now they could try forcing as much food as possible into themselves until they got what they want https://youtu.be/enY771qAmvk

Edited by todd, 29 March 2023 - 09:19 AM.

[todd]

“Pope Francis in hospital with respiratory infection“: https://www.bbc.com/...pe-65117270.amp