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#421 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 07:46 AM

Begbie doesn't sound that great in retrospect either. 

 

in 1980 UVic named a building after Begbie.  did we really discover new things about him since then?  he died in 1894.


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#422 Mike K.

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 07:51 AM

There’s Begbie Hall at the Royal Jubilee.

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 08:01 AM

in 1980 UVic named a building after Begbie.  did we really discover new things about him since then?  he died in 1894.

 

You mean the "hangin' judge" who ordered the hanging of 5 FN chiefs which Trudeau apologized for?!


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#424 FawltyVic

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 04:51 AM

I’m not so sure it’s “scary”.

“British Columbia” would be a better place to start with a name change though.

Canadian Columbia sounds better.

Seriously though. How about “Green Coas

 

I think it's scary personally.

 

I'm not one who was taught much of history. Elementary school alone was being taught of Aboriginals and the explorers. With each grade it was wash, rinse, repeat on the same subjects. I learned nothing else of Canadian history at all from our fine education system. I knew more about American history entering junior high school than of our own. Partly due to this I don't know who Trutch is.

 

But in my personal opinion I find what I linked to scary. If I've learned anything about council and they had their way, renaming streets would be just the start. Residential schools might be the extra coal they need to add to fuel their sanitisation express train.


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#425 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 05:06 AM

9 days left in the month.  is the kamloops full report ready?



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Posted 21 June 2021 - 05:30 AM

Bush plane monument in Thompson, Man., a painful reminder for residential school survivors

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...hools-1.6068398

 

 

 

Kamloops residential school has woken up world to ‘genocide’ in Canada, Bellegarde says

 

https://www.theglobe...cide-in-canada/

 

 

 

Now that Ontario has committed $10M to find residential school burial sites, what happens next?

 

https://www.thestar....ppens-next.html

 

 

 

Here's what Ontario's former residential schools are used for today

 

https://dailyhive.co...-used-for-today

 

 

 

Team investigating Brandon's former residential school for graves turns to elders for clues

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ollow-1.6073118

 

 

 

Dead reckoning: Canada's national cemetery is bringing truth about residential schools to light

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-tour-1.6060442

 

 

 

Indian residential schools were designed with cemeteries

 

https://biv.com/arti...gned-cemeteries

 

 

 

Deaths at Sechelt Residential School ‘not even close’ to official tally: Paull

 

https://www.coastrep...y-paull-3884711

 

 

 

Saskatchewan provides $2M for residential school site research

 

https://www.newsopti...arch-1.24332354

 

 

 

Child welfare system, residential schools 'different chapters of the same book': Manitoba advocate

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...hools-1.6069510

 

 

 

Northern communities cancel Canada Festivities amid residential school reckoning

 

https://paherald.sk....hool-reckoning/

 

 

 

Grade 10 distance course asks about 'benefits' of residential schools, calls First Nations alcoholism 'common'

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...types-1.6069747

 

 

 

Social media post depicting residential school children ‘having an absolute blast’ causes outrage

 

https://globalnews.c...l-schools-post/

 

 

 

Mural depicting Canada's residential schools ready to be unveiled in Selkirk, Man.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...k-man-1.6070238

 

 

 

Residential school survivor's planned memorial wall about 'humanizing' Mohawk Institute students

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...-wall-1.6067854

 

 

 

'A huge task': Search will take time at former Shubenacadie residential school site

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...owler-1.6067990

 

 

 

New calls to recognize Timber Bay as a residential school after Kamloops discovery - La Ronge

 

https://www.newsopti...onge-1.24327654

 

 

 

City administrators directed to study potential search of former residential school site

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...chool-1.6070649

 

 

 

Winnipeg Mayor calls for site search at former city residential school

 

https://winnipeg.ctv...chool-1.5474255

 

 

 

Son of residential school survivors calls for Bishop Grandin Boulevard name change

 

https://winnipeg.ctv...hange-1.5473624

 

 

 

Alberta city cancels Canada Day fireworks at site of former residential school

 

https://www.ponokane...dential-school/

 

 

 

How a residential school monument helped bring some closure to N.W.T. community

 

https://www.cbc.ca/p...y/1911262275674

 

 

 

'Profit from other people's pain': Residential school survivors warn of stolen designs on orange shirts

 

https://vancouverisl...hirts-1.5472739

 

 

 

Canada can’t be prosecuted for residential school crimes, says former UN-tribunal lawyer

 

https://www.aptnnews...ribunal-lawyer/

 

 

 

Rickford broke word on residential school investigations: Mamakwa

 

https://www.tbnewswa...mamakwa-3881074


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#427 FawltyVic

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 05:48 AM

Hay River crosswalk acknowledges tragedy of residential schools

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ivors-1.6071587

 

 

 

Curtailing Canada Day plans because of legacy of residential schools

 

https://www.cbc.ca/p...y/1911261763578

 

 

 

Concerns over quotation marks when referring to residential school survivors in UCP draft curriculum

 

https://www.660cityn...ion-curriculum/

 

 

 

Our Thunder Bay – Indian Residential Schools – with John Pateman

 

https://www.netnewsl...h-john-pateman/

 

 

 

Rosseau student investigated residential schools: 'This actually happened to children our age'

 

https://www.parrysou...ldren-our-age-/

 

 

 

Committee to review name of Winnipeg school named for residential school leader

 

https://winnipeg.ctv...eader-1.5466201

 

 

 

Kenney says money coming for Indigenous groups to identify residential school grave sites

 

https://lethbridgene...ol-grave-sites/

 

 

 

City marks Indigenous Solidarity Day as Canada grapples with Residential Schools' legacy

 

https://london.ctvne...egacy-1.5478827

 

 

 

Kingston: Sir John A. Macdonald statue removed from City Park

 

https://ottawacitize...b9-6a629448ca6f


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#428 spanky123

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 08:04 AM

The Breaker has released some information on the Kamloops "findings". https://thebreaker.n...amloops-dozier/

 

What does the evidence look like and who did the work?

The Tk’emlups have not answered those questions. Casimir said the findings would be released later this month. Meanwhile, the RCMP and B.C. Coroners Service said they await the Tk’emlups direction on next steps.

In that May 27 announcement, Casimir said the band was thankful for the Pathway to Healing grant to undertake the work.

The Department of Canadian Heritage told theBreaker.news that the 2020 grant was worth $40,000 and awarded under the title Paths to Healing. It was one of 200 projects funded in a $7 million, 2019-announced program to commemorate the history and legacy of residential schools.

The Tk’emlups application to Canadian Heritage said Paths to Healing would “recognize and remember those who passed away, endured, or suffered the intergenerational impacts of attending” Kamloops Indian Residential School, which the Roman Catholic Church operated from 1893 to 1978.

The project envisioned a permanent memorial site, park benches, indigenous plants and paths within the Secwépemc Museum and Heritage Park, in addition to a cairn-building ceremony and orange shirt day activities.



#429 LJ

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 08:03 PM

TMII


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#430 spanky123

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 08:30 PM

^ To boil it down for you, the Breaker investigation revealed that the Kamloops FN never received a grant to do the GPR.  Either they used grant money for a different project or they never did the survey using grant money as they claimed.



#431 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 08:53 PM

Two Catholic churches in B.C.'s South Okanagan were destroyed by separate overnight fires early Monday.

Penticton RCMP said an officer was on patrol when he saw fire coming from Sacred Heart Church on Penticton Indian Band lands at around 1 a.m.

By the time the officer arrived, the church was fully engulfed.


https://www.cbc.ca/n...icton-1.6073976

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#432 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 22 June 2021 - 09:10 AM

Teacher Ki Louie says it felt good when the Central Kootenay school he's working at finally ditched its colonial name in the interests of reconciliation.

 

Last Friday, the former Prince Charles Secondary School in Creston, B.C., held a ceremony to remove the royal family member's name from its exterior signage — just three days after the Kootenay Lake School District voted unanimously to order the deletion.

 

School District 8 will temporarily refer to the school as Creston Valley Secondary School. Meanwhile, district staff will look at a process for a permanent name change, according to the school board's resolution last Tuesday.

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...alley-1.6074701


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#433 LJ

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Posted 22 June 2021 - 07:50 PM

^How about Public School 23? 

 

Oops, isn't math racist now?


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Posted 23 June 2021 - 02:53 PM

A Saskatchewan First Nation says it has made the “horrific and shocking discovery” of hundreds of unmarked graves — many believed to be children — near a former residential school, with a total expected to be over three times higher than the 215 discovered recently in Kamloops, B.C., according to a source briefed on the file.


https://nationalpost...idential-school

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#435 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 03:16 PM

3X more bodies.

will have 100x less media impact.

PR 101.

#436 spanky123

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 03:49 PM

^ But 3x the monetary ask from the Government.

 

I think we have already established that a typical grave in the 1800's was marked with a cross that rotted after a few decades.

 

I don't know how surprising it is then to find 'unmarked graves' in a communal cemetery that was there 20 years before the residential school even opened. What did they think was in the 2/3 rds of the cemetery that didn't have headstones?


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#437 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 June 2021 - 12:58 AM

also where did they think the missing children went? if not into the ground?

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Posted 24 June 2021 - 05:42 AM

Bodies in cemeteries?!

This is a shocking revelation!

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Posted 24 June 2021 - 06:28 AM

also where did they think the missing children went? if not into the ground?

 

Thanks to google, here is the real story. Obviously the MSM can't search properly.

 

https://saskatoon.ct...raves-1.5379492

 

Highlights

 

The search at the Sasktoon cemetery was done earlier in the year, not started in May as the media reported. 

There was erosion at the cemetery over the years and bodies were moved but the graves not marked.

The City knew at the time that about 200 graves were unaccounted for and the purpose the scan by students was to locate them.


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Posted 24 June 2021 - 08:46 AM

98 year run graveyard contains bodies.

film at 11.

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