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#2221 Mike K.

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Posted 14 March 2023 - 02:15 PM

In the absence of talking points from handlers, Housing Twitter is silent on the bungling of Harris Green Village, and its 1,600-units.

All we’re seeing is how great BCAA’s EVO car-share is, likely as a means of deflecting from the fact that without sufficient parking, HGV is in trouble.

You would think, that the potential loss of 1,600 rentals would be the #1 trending topic, but it isn’t. It’s like the project never happened, and when it is discussed, the conversation is about council’s amendment being non-binding and Starlight can reject the parking reduction (which is false).

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Posted 14 March 2023 - 07:51 PM

Yes I agree the only way housing will become adorable is through inflation or a crash, this won't be an easy correction.

 

I think some houses will never be adorable.


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#2223 dasmo

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Posted 15 March 2023 - 12:37 PM

This is what it looks like in reality. Again, no democracy, just mandates and restrictions. If you don't like it you are right-wing. This simple attack shames most away. It is rainbow authoritarianism.

 

https://youtu.be/nw0ixrDmaE0

 

It sounds so nice. Why the need to force it?

 

"C40 is joining forces with NREP to launch the Green and Thriving Neighbourhoods programme and support interdisciplinary approaches that make urban areas more sustainable, equitable and liveable.

The programme will deliver proof of concept for “15-minute city” policies and empower cities around the globe to implement ambitious net-zero and people-centred neighbourhoods. The programme will implement pilot projects in at least five cities. It will also create a dedicated international network of city practitioners that will work together, advise and learn from one another to build and expand green and thriving urban neighbourhoods."

 

https://www.c40.org/...15-minute-city/



#2224 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 16 March 2023 - 11:54 AM

350 Robertson Street - Mar 9 - $1,769,900 - 6150

1343 Finlayson Street - Mar 9 - 840,000 - 6220

2612 Richmond - Mar 7 - $1,700,000 - 7500 sq. ft

1789 Emerson Street - Mar 4 - $850,000 - 6300 sq. ft. - sold for $625,000 in May 2018

1747 Newton Street - Mar 4 - $1,149,900 - 7950 sq. ft

1837 Chestnut Street - Mar 2 - $1,049,000 - 6840 - sold in 2014 for $425,000

1614 Oakland Avenue - Mar 2 - $979,000 - 6000

2745 Scott Street - Mar 2 - $999,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - sold in July 2019 for $745,000

320 Linden Avenue - Feb 28 - $1,200,000 - 5250 sq. ft.

220 Irving Road - Feb 28 - $1,699,000 - sold July 2019 @ $1.1M - 4450 sq. ft.

3069 Washington Avenue - Feb 28 - $829,900 - 5787

1252 Oscar Street - Feb 28 - $1,985,000 - 4758

1450 Taunton Street - Feb 28 - $995,000 - 4907 - SOLD MAR 8

2552 Victoria Street - Feb 25 - $2,300,000 - 3374 sq. ft

642 Niagara Street - Feb 25 - $1,389,000 - 4650

1709 Fernwood Road - Feb 25 - $925,000 - 4475 - SOLD MAR 4

1935 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,399,000 - 7128 - SOLD MAR 6

2536 Garden Street - Feb 25 - $1,300,000 - 2796

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,649,999 - 5500 SOLD Feb 25

1925 Stanley Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,599,000 - 6480

1824 Crescent Road - Feb 24 - $2,250,000 - 10660 -  sold in Nov 2020 for $1.65M - SOLD March 15

311 Simcoe Street - Feb 24 - $1,784,900 - 3312 - sold in Aug 2022 for $1.65888M

350 Robertson Street - Feb 23 - $1,850,000 - 6150 sq. ft.

1341 Vining - Feb 22 - $950,000 - 3848

426 Arnold Avenue - Feb 21 - $1,695,000 - 4080 sq. ft. - - sold in Apr 2018 for $1.1M

2533 Cook Street - Feb 18 - $870,000 - 6000 sq. ft. SOLD MARCH 7

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 17 - $1,699,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - SOLD Feb 22

1498 Myrtle Avenue - Feb 11 - $849,900 - 4350 sq. ft

1511 Bay Street - Feb 9 - $849,000 - 4120 - sold in Sep 2019 for $585k

1520 Regents Place - Feb 8 - $2,699,000 - 17250

609 Moss Street - Feb 7 - $1,049,000 - 3200 - SOLD Feb 26

740 Mary Street - Feb 7 - $1,190,000 - 3960 - SOLD Feb 22

3047 Balfour Avenue - Feb 6 - $999,900 - SOLD Feb 17

731 Princess - Feb 6 - $699,900 - 

748 Pemberton - Feb 6 - $3,100,000 - 11761

1428 Edgeware Road - Feb 6 - $1,099,000 - 7653

515 Burnside Road East - Feb 5 - $899,900 - 5500

1111 Catherine Street - Feb 3 - $1,600,000 - 7200

1952 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 3 - $2,600,000 - 7144

449 Moss Street - Feb 3 - $1,678,000 - 4800 - 

119 Oswego Street - Feb 2 - $799,900 - this one could REALLY use a $15,000 quick exterior paint job, protect that wood!  Built in 1891.  I respect wood. I revere wood. - 1430

2434 Richmond Road - Feb 1 - $675,000 - 1896 RE-list Feb 28 $599,900

723 Selkirk Avenue - Feb 1 - $1,275,000 - SOLD FEB 13

935 Royal Terrace - Feb 1 - $3,950,000 - 6000

11 Oswego Street - Jan 30 - $2,499,000 - - - sold in August of 2019 for $1.65M.  $849k move UP (44 months) - 4500- SOLD Feb 26

606 Niagara - Jan 30 - $1,349,000 - SOLD

1711 Haultain - Jan 28 - $790,000 - SOLD Feb 1, about $850k 

1315 Minto - Jan 26 - $1,649,850 RELISTED Feb 3 at $1,599,850 RELISTED Feb 15 at $1,549,999 Relisted Mar 8 same price

474 St. Charles - $1,575,000 - - - sold for $1.18M on September 30th, 2020.  $395k move UP (29 months) - SOLD Feb 3

1772 Carrick - $1,589,000  - - - sold in May of 2021 for $875k.   $714k move UP (21 months) 

1121 Caledonia - $799,000 - SOLD February 2, about $850k

548 Niagara - $1,175,000 SOLD Feb 25

25 Cook - $1,150,000

1520 Pembroke - $1,750,000 - - - sold for $1M in 2018.  $250k move UP  

3156 Carroll - Jan 17 -$1,000,000 - SOLD MARCH 11

2906 Quadra - Jan 15 - $949,000

1750/52 Carrick duplex - Jan 11 - $1,099,000 SOLD Feb 24

3192 Fifth - LOT - Jan 11 - $549,900

690 Dallas - Jan 10 - $2,450,000

326 Irving - $1,199,000

1320 Pandora - Jan 10 - $1,100,000

612 Belton - $1,149,000 - SOLD MAR 1

2723 Avebury - $1,099,000 - - - sold for $930k in 2018.  SOLD FEB 14

1487 Myrtle - Jan 9 - $1,475,000 - - - sold for $850k in September 2021.  $625k move UP (17 months)

3170 Alder - $869,900 - - - sold for $915k in January 2022.                                                :mad:

603 Su'it TRIPLEX - $1,850,000 - SOLD Feb 6

1120 Faithful - $2,499,900

316 Arnold - $1,495,000 - - - sold in March of 2021 for $1.052M.   $443k move UP (22 months)

1340 Bay - $875,000 - SOLD January 27, at list price

1407 Chambers - Jan 5 - $1,589,000



#2225 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 16 March 2023 - 04:21 PM

16 Lotus Street - Mar 16 - $1,250,000 - 7100 - Jan 2018 $900k

2569 Asquith Street - Mar 16 - $999,999 - 5500

1403 Lang Street - Mar 16 - $950,000 - 5831 - Dec 2018 $696k

 

350 Robertson Street - Mar 9 - $1,769,900 - 6150

1343 Finlayson Street - Mar 9 - 840,000 - 6220

2612 Richmond - Mar 7 - $1,700,000 - 7500 sq. ft

1789 Emerson Street - Mar 4 - $850,000 - 6300 sq. ft. - sold for $625,000 in May 2018

1747 Newton Street - Mar 4 - $1,149,900 - 7950 sq. ft

1837 Chestnut Street - Mar 2 - $1,049,000 - 6840 - sold in 2014 for $425,000

1614 Oakland Avenue - Mar 2 - $979,000 - 6000

2745 Scott Street - Mar 2 - $999,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - sold in July 2019 for $745,000

320 Linden Avenue - Feb 28 - $1,200,000 - 5250 sq. ft.

220 Irving Road - Feb 28 - $1,699,000 - sold July 2019 @ $1.1M - 4450 sq. ft.

3069 Washington Avenue - Feb 28 - $829,900 - 5787

1252 Oscar Street - Feb 28 - $1,985,000 - 4758

1450 Taunton Street - Feb 28 - $995,000 - 4907 - SOLD MAR 8

2552 Victoria Street - Feb 25 - $2,300,000 - 3374 sq. ft

642 Niagara Street - Feb 25 - $1,389,000 - 4650

1709 Fernwood Road - Feb 25 - $925,000 - 4475 - SOLD MAR 4

1935 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,399,000 - 7128 - SOLD MAR 6

2536 Garden Street - Feb 25 - $1,300,000 - 2796

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,649,999 - 5500 SOLD Feb 25

1925 Stanley Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,599,000 - 6480

1824 Crescent Road - Feb 24 - $2,250,000 - 10660 -  sold in Nov 2020 for $1.65M - SOLD March 15

311 Simcoe Street - Feb 24 - $1,784,900 - 3312 - sold in Aug 2022 for $1.65888M

350 Robertson Street - Feb 23 - $1,850,000 - 6150 sq. ft.

1341 Vining - Feb 22 - $950,000 - 3848

426 Arnold Avenue - Feb 21 - $1,695,000 - 4080 sq. ft. - - sold in Apr 2018 for $1.1M

2533 Cook Street - Feb 18 - $870,000 - 6000 sq. ft. SOLD MARCH 7

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 17 - $1,699,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - SOLD Feb 22

1498 Myrtle Avenue - Feb 11 - $849,900 - 4350 sq. ft

1511 Bay Street - Feb 9 - $849,000 - 4120 - sold in Sep 2019 for $585k

1520 Regents Place - Feb 8 - $2,699,000 - 17250

609 Moss Street - Feb 7 - $1,049,000 - 3200 - SOLD Feb 26

740 Mary Street - Feb 7 - $1,190,000 - 3960 - SOLD Feb 22

3047 Balfour Avenue - Feb 6 - $999,900 - SOLD Feb 17

731 Princess - Feb 6 - $699,900 - 

748 Pemberton - Feb 6 - $3,100,000 - 11761

1428 Edgeware Road - Feb 6 - $1,099,000 - 7653

515 Burnside Road East - Feb 5 - $899,900 - 5500

1111 Catherine Street - Feb 3 - $1,600,000 - 7200

1952 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 3 - $2,600,000 - 7144

449 Moss Street - Feb 3 - $1,678,000 - 4800 - 

119 Oswego Street - Feb 2 - $799,900 - this one could REALLY use a $15,000 quick exterior paint job, protect that wood!  Built in 1891.  I respect wood. I revere wood. - 1430

2434 Richmond Road - Feb 1 - $675,000 - 1896 RE-list Feb 28 $599,900

723 Selkirk Avenue - Feb 1 - $1,275,000 - SOLD FEB 13

935 Royal Terrace - Feb 1 - $3,950,000 - 6000

11 Oswego Street - Jan 30 - $2,499,000 - - - sold in August of 2019 for $1.65M.  $849k move UP (44 months) - 4500- SOLD Feb 26

606 Niagara - Jan 30 - $1,349,000 - SOLD

1711 Haultain - Jan 28 - $790,000 - SOLD Feb 1, about $850k 

1315 Minto - Jan 26 - $1,649,850 RELISTED Feb 3 at $1,599,850 RELISTED Feb 15 at $1,549,999 Relisted Mar 8 same price

474 St. Charles - $1,575,000 - - - sold for $1.18M on September 30th, 2020.  $395k move UP (29 months) - SOLD Feb 3

1772 Carrick - $1,589,000  - - - sold in May of 2021 for $875k.   $714k move UP (21 months) 

1121 Caledonia - $799,000 - SOLD February 2, about $850k

548 Niagara - $1,175,000 SOLD Feb 25

25 Cook - $1,150,000

1520 Pembroke - $1,750,000 - - - sold for $1M in 2018.  $250k move UP  

3156 Carroll - Jan 17 -$1,000,000 - SOLD MARCH 11

2906 Quadra - Jan 15 - $949,000

1750/52 Carrick duplex - Jan 11 - $1,099,000 SOLD Feb 24

3192 Fifth - LOT - Jan 11 - $549,900

690 Dallas - Jan 10 - $2,450,000

326 Irving - $1,199,000

1320 Pandora - Jan 10 - $1,100,000

612 Belton - $1,149,000 - SOLD MAR 1

2723 Avebury - $1,099,000 - - - sold for $930k in 2018.  SOLD FEB 14

1487 Myrtle - Jan 9 - $1,475,000 - - - sold for $850k in September 2021.  $625k move UP (17 months)

3170 Alder - $869,900 - - - sold for $915k in January 2022.                                                 :mad:

603 Su'it TRIPLEX - $1,850,000 - SOLD Feb 6

1120 Faithful - $2,499,900

316 Arnold - $1,495,000 - - - sold in March of 2021 for $1.052M.   $443k move UP (22 months)

1340 Bay - $875,000 - SOLD January 27, at list price

1407 Chambers - Jan 5 - $1,589,000


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 16 March 2023 - 04:21 PM.


#2226 Mike K.

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Posted 16 March 2023 - 07:10 PM

Excellent work here, Watcher. Thank you for pulling this together for us.


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#2227 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 March 2023 - 04:05 AM

'It's a process': Saanich aims to make housing approvals more efficient

 

Developers argue Saanich council is sending a mixed message when it ignores its own staff’s recommendation to forgo public hearings for projects that fit the official community plan


#2228 Mike K.

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Posted 19 March 2023 - 06:18 AM

This has really frustrated developers. Saanich makes it very difficult for projects to proceed and now this affordable housing pledge has caught developers off guard. The CBC also ran a piece very favourable to the agenda but without discussing the challenges developers face.

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#2229 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 21 March 2023 - 02:25 AM

98 Moss Street - Mar 21 - $1,648,000 - 7000 sq. ft. - July 2016 $896k

 

 

16 Lotus Street - Mar 16 - $1,250,000 - 7100 - Jan 2018 $900k

2569 Asquith Street - Mar 16 - $999,999 - 5500

1403 Lang Street - Mar 16 - $950,000 - 5831 - Dec 2018 $696k

350 Robertson Street - Mar 9 - $1,769,900 - 6150

1343 Finlayson Street - Mar 9 - 840,000 - 6220

2612 Richmond - Mar 7 - $1,700,000 - 7500 sq. ft

1789 Emerson Street - Mar 4 - $850,000 - 6300 sq. ft. - sold for $625,000 in May 2018

1747 Newton Street - Mar 4 - $1,149,900 - 7950 sq. ft

1837 Chestnut Street - Mar 2 - $1,049,000 - 6840 - sold in 2014 for $425,000

1614 Oakland Avenue - Mar 2 - $979,000 - 6000

2745 Scott Street - Mar 2 - $999,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - sold in July 2019 for $745,000

320 Linden Avenue - Feb 28 - $1,200,000 - 5250 sq. ft.

220 Irving Road - Feb 28 - $1,699,000 - sold July 2019 @ $1.1M - 4450 sq. ft.

3069 Washington Avenue - Feb 28 - $829,900 - 5787

1252 Oscar Street - Feb 28 - $1,985,000 - 4758

1450 Taunton Street - Feb 28 - $995,000 - 4907 - SOLD MAR 8

2552 Victoria Street - Feb 25 - $2,300,000 - 3374 sq. ft

642 Niagara Street - Feb 25 - $1,389,000 - 4650

1709 Fernwood Road - Feb 25 - $925,000 - 4475 - SOLD MAR 4

1935 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,399,000 - 7128 - SOLD MAR 6

2536 Garden Street - Feb 25 - $1,300,000 - 2796

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,649,999 - 5500 SOLD Feb 25

1925 Stanley Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,599,000 - 6480

1824 Crescent Road - Feb 24 - $2,250,000 - 10660 -  sold in Nov 2020 for $1.65M - SOLD March 15

311 Simcoe Street - Feb 24 - $1,784,900 - 3312 - sold in Aug 2022 for $1.65888M

350 Robertson Street - Feb 23 - $1,850,000 - 6150 sq. ft.

1341 Vining - Feb 22 - $950,000 - 3848

426 Arnold Avenue - Feb 21 - $1,695,000 - 4080 sq. ft. - - sold in Apr 2018 for $1.1M

2533 Cook Street - Feb 18 - $870,000 - 6000 sq. ft. SOLD MARCH 7

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 17 - $1,699,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - SOLD Feb 22

1498 Myrtle Avenue - Feb 11 - $849,900 - 4350 sq. ft

1511 Bay Street - Feb 9 - $849,000 - 4120 - sold in Sep 2019 for $585k relisted Mar 21 at $799,000

1520 Regents Place - Feb 8 - $2,699,000 - 17250

609 Moss Street - Feb 7 - $1,049,000 - 3200 - SOLD Feb 26

740 Mary Street - Feb 7 - $1,190,000 - 3960 - SOLD Feb 22

3047 Balfour Avenue - Feb 6 - $999,900 - SOLD Feb 17

731 Princess - Feb 6 - $699,900 - 

748 Pemberton - Feb 6 - $3,100,000 - 11761

1428 Edgeware Road - Feb 6 - $1,099,000 - 7653

515 Burnside Road East - Feb 5 - $899,900 - 5500

1111 Catherine Street - Feb 3 - $1,600,000 - 7200

1952 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 3 - $2,600,000 - 7144

449 Moss Street - Feb 3 - $1,678,000 - 4800 - 

119 Oswego Street - Feb 2 - $799,900 - this one could REALLY use a $15,000 quick exterior paint job, protect that wood!  Built in 1891.  I respect wood. I revere wood. - 1430

2434 Richmond Road - Feb 1 - $675,000 - 1896 RE-list Feb 28 $599,900

723 Selkirk Avenue - Feb 1 - $1,275,000 - SOLD FEB 13

935 Royal Terrace - Feb 1 - $3,950,000 - 6000

11 Oswego Street - Jan 30 - $2,499,000 - - - sold in August of 2019 for $1.65M.  $849k move UP (44 months) - 4500- SOLD Feb 26

606 Niagara - Jan 30 - $1,349,000 - SOLD

1711 Haultain - Jan 28 - $790,000 - SOLD Feb 1, about $850k 

1315 Minto - Jan 26 - $1,649,850 RELISTED Feb 3 at $1,599,850 RELISTED Feb 15 at $1,549,999 Relisted Mar 8 same price

474 St. Charles - $1,575,000 - - - sold for $1.18M on September 30th, 2020.  $395k move UP (29 months) - SOLD Feb 3

1772 Carrick - $1,589,000  - - - sold in May of 2021 for $875k.   $714k move UP (21 months) 

1121 Caledonia - $799,000 - SOLD February 2, about $850k

548 Niagara - $1,175,000 SOLD Feb 25

25 Cook - $1,150,000

1520 Pembroke - $1,750,000 - - - sold for $1M in 2018.  $250k move UP  

3156 Carroll - Jan 17 -$1,000,000 - SOLD MARCH 11

2906 Quadra - Jan 15 - $949,000

1750/52 Carrick duplex - Jan 11 - $1,099,000 SOLD Feb 24

3192 Fifth - LOT - Jan 11 - $549,900

690 Dallas - Jan 10 - $2,450,000

326 Irving - $1,199,000

1320 Pandora - Jan 10 - $1,100,000

612 Belton - $1,149,000 - SOLD MAR 1

2723 Avebury - $1,099,000 - - - sold for $930k in 2018.  SOLD FEB 14

1487 Myrtle - Jan 9 - $1,475,000 - - - sold for $850k in September 2021.  $625k move UP (17 months)

3170 Alder - $869,900 - - - sold for $915k in January 2022.                                                  :mad:

603 Su'it TRIPLEX - $1,850,000 - SOLD Feb 6

1120 Faithful - $2,499,900 - SOLD MAR 21

316 Arnold - $1,495,000 - - - sold in March of 2021 for $1.052M.   $443k move UP (22 months)

1340 Bay - $875,000 - SOLD January 27, at list price

1407 Chambers - Jan 5 - $1,589,000


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 March 2023 - 02:28 AM.


#2230 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 21 March 2023 - 11:47 AM

98 Moss Street - Mar 21 - $1,648,000 - 7000 sq. ft. - July 2016 $896k

16 Lotus Street - Mar 16 - $1,250,000 - 7100 - Jan 2018 $900k

2569 Asquith Street - Mar 16 - $999,999 - 5500

1403 Lang Street - Mar 16 - $950,000 - 5831 - Dec 2018 $696k

350 Robertson Street - Mar 9 - $1,769,900 - 6150

1343 Finlayson Street - Mar 9 - 840,000 - 6220

2612 Richmond - Mar 7 - $1,700,000 - 7500 sq. ft

1789 Emerson Street - Mar 4 - $850,000 - 6300 sq. ft. - sold for $625,000 in May 2018

1747 Newton Street - Mar 4 - $1,149,900 - 7950 sq. ft

1837 Chestnut Street - Mar 2 - $1,049,000 - 6840 - sold in 2014 for $425,000

1614 Oakland Avenue - Mar 2 - $979,000 - 6000

2745 Scott Street - Mar 2 - $999,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - sold in July 2019 for $745,000

320 Linden Avenue - Feb 28 - $1,200,000 - 5250 sq. ft.

220 Irving Road - Feb 28 - $1,699,000 - sold July 2019 @ $1.1M - 4450 sq. ft.

3069 Washington Avenue - Feb 28 - $829,900 - 5787

1252 Oscar Street - Feb 28 - $1,985,000 - 4758

1450 Taunton Street - Feb 28 - $995,000 - 4907 - SOLD MAR 8

2552 Victoria Street - Feb 25 - $2,300,000 - 3374 sq. ft

642 Niagara Street - Feb 25 - $1,389,000 - 4650

1709 Fernwood Road - Feb 25 - $925,000 - 4475 - SOLD MAR 4

1935 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,399,000 - 7128 - SOLD MAR 6

2536 Garden Street - Feb 25 - $1,300,000 - 2796

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,649,999 - 5500 SOLD Feb 25

1925 Stanley Avenue - Feb 25 - $1,599,000 - 6480

1824 Crescent Road - Feb 24 - $2,250,000 - 10660 -  sold in Nov 2020 for $1.65M - SOLD March 15

311 Simcoe Street - Feb 24 - $1,784,900 - 3312 - sold in Aug 2022 for $1.65888M

350 Robertson Street - Feb 23 - $1,850,000 - 6150 sq. ft.

1341 Vining - Feb 22 - $950,000 - 3848

426 Arnold Avenue - Feb 21 - $1,695,000 - 4080 sq. ft. - - sold in Apr 2018 for $1.1M

2533 Cook Street - Feb 18 - $870,000 - 6000 sq. ft. SOLD MARCH 7

855 Richmond Avenue - Feb 17 - $1,699,000 - 5500 sq. ft. - SOLD Feb 22

1498 Myrtle Avenue - Feb 11 - $849,900 - 4350 sq. ft

1511 Bay Street - Feb 9 - $849,000 - 4120 - sold in Sep 2019 for $585k relisted Mar 21 at $799,000

1520 Regents Place - Feb 8 - $2,699,000 - 17250

609 Moss Street - Feb 7 - $1,049,000 - 3200 - SOLD Feb 26

740 Mary Street - Feb 7 - $1,190,000 - 3960 - SOLD Feb 22

3047 Balfour Avenue - Feb 6 - $999,900 - SOLD Feb 17

731 Princess - Feb 6 - $699,900 - 

748 Pemberton - Feb 6 - $3,100,000 - 11761

1428 Edgeware Road - Feb 6 - $1,099,000 - 7653

515 Burnside Road East - Feb 5 - $899,900 - 5500

1111 Catherine Street - Feb 3 - $1,600,000 - 7200

1952 Runnymede Avenue - Feb 3 - $2,600,000 - 7144

449 Moss Street - Feb 3 - $1,678,000 - 4800 - SOLD MARCH 21

119 Oswego Street - Feb 2 - $799,900 - this one could REALLY use a $15,000 quick exterior paint job, protect that wood!  Built in 1891.  I respect wood. I revere wood. - 1430

2434 Richmond Road - Feb 1 - $675,000 - 1896 RE-list Feb 28 $599,900

723 Selkirk Avenue - Feb 1 - $1,275,000 - SOLD FEB 13

935 Royal Terrace - Feb 1 - $3,950,000 - 6000

11 Oswego Street - Jan 30 - $2,499,000 - - - sold in August of 2019 for $1.65M.  $849k move UP (44 months) - 4500- SOLD Feb 26

606 Niagara - Jan 30 - $1,349,000 - SOLD

1711 Haultain - Jan 28 - $790,000 - SOLD Feb 1, about $850k 

1315 Minto - Jan 26 - $1,649,850 RELISTED Feb 3 at $1,599,850 RELISTED Feb 15 at $1,549,999 Relisted Mar 8 same price

474 St. Charles - $1,575,000 - - - sold for $1.18M on September 30th, 2020.  $395k move UP (29 months) - SOLD Feb 3

1772 Carrick - $1,589,000  - - - sold in May of 2021 for $875k.   $714k move UP (21 months) 

1121 Caledonia - $799,000 - SOLD February 2, about $850k

548 Niagara - $1,175,000 SOLD Feb 25

25 Cook - $1,150,000

1520 Pembroke - $1,750,000 - - - sold for $1M in 2018.  $250k move UP  

3156 Carroll - Jan 17 -$1,000,000 - SOLD MARCH 11

2906 Quadra - Jan 15 - $949,000

1750/52 Carrick duplex - Jan 11 - $1,099,000 SOLD Feb 24

3192 Fifth - LOT - Jan 11 - $549,900

690 Dallas - Jan 10 - $2,450,000

326 Irving - $1,199,000

1320 Pandora - Jan 10 - $1,100,000

612 Belton - $1,149,000 - SOLD MAR 1

2723 Avebury - $1,099,000 - - - sold for $930k in 2018.  SOLD FEB 14

1487 Myrtle - Jan 9 - $1,475,000 - - - sold for $850k in September 2021.  $625k move UP (17 months)

3170 Alder - $869,900 - - - sold for $915k in January 2022.                                                   :mad:

603 Su'it TRIPLEX - $1,850,000 - SOLD Feb 6

1120 Faithful - $2,499,900 - SOLD MAR 21

316 Arnold - $1,495,000 - - - sold in March of 2021 for $1.052M.   $443k move UP (22 months)

1340 Bay - $875,000 - SOLD January 27, at list price

1407 Chambers - Jan 5 - $1,589,000



#2231 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 March 2023 - 09:21 AM

$799,900

 

Welcome to 1021 Empress! A Sunny, flat R-2 zoned property with many possibilities ideal for missing middle opportunities (rental revenue while you await permits) or a starter home! A cozy living room with fireplace welcomes you when you step inside the main level as well as separate dining room and 2 generous sized bedrooms, spacious kitchen and one bath. Updates include vinyl windows and furnace system. The lower level includes a large laundry space, 2 piece bathroom in the partially unfinished basement with tons of potential and a detached garage and ample south facing back yard space for the kids, gardens or furry friends to play. Bring your ideas and make this home your own. Centrally located with a short walk to downtown, restaurants, elementary and high school, parks, and recreation centre. 

 

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6,400 sq. ft.

 

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Posted 26 March 2023 - 04:13 AM

Sometimes I do not quite understand these figures.

 

 

 

 

 

It is likely to take one or two generations before the District of Saanich can dig itself out of its housing deficit.

 

During discussion this past week of a progress report on Saanich’s housing strategy, district staff suggested it will be decades before the municipality can catch up, noting it has managed to build only 70 per cent of its housing target over the past six years.

 

And even that number is generous, as the report noted Saanich saw an average of 340 units completed per year over the past five years, which included a boom of 620 units completed in 2019.

 

Only 253 units were completed in 2022 and 191 in 2021. The 2020 housing needs report prepared for the district by Urban Matters showed Saanich could require 3,049 new homes by 2025 and the community could see 5,290 new households by that date. It recommended Saanich complete 610 new units a year to meet demand.

 

The bottom line, according to the report: Saanich is not meeting its housing need.

 

 

https://www.timescol...-report-6759185

 

 

 

 

 

Who exactly determines the "housing need" and how is it determined?   And why just Saanich as a whole?  The municipal border is more or less just an artificial boundary.  In terms of housing development it makes little matter if I apply to build in Saanich, Oak Bay, Victoria or Esquimalt or Langford, except some rules differences.

 

For example, does 10-Mile-Point have a housing need?  How about the Burnside Road West or Hartland areas?  Prospect Lake?  Shelbourne Valley?    Where are the exact numbers for all these areas?

 

It's pretty easy for politicians to say "Saanich needs more housing!", but then I invite you to go to Broadmead and ask them where you'd like them to allow you to deposit their share.

 

And look, almost everyone is free to add a basement suite to their house, make it into a duplex, add a garden suite in some cases, subdivide their lot in more rare cases.  But they are generally not, either because government has already made it less appealing and/or expensive.  From landlord/tenants rights that favour even deadbeat tenants to permits and studies and administration costs. 

 

 

 

 

Coun. Teale Phelps Bondaroff said council is trying to make it easier for multi-family housing units to be developed for a reason.

 

“It’s because we have a pressing housing need, and if you look at this report, single-family home ownership is unattainable for anyone making other than an astronomical amount of money,” he said.

 

 

 

Except the above simply isn't true.  Saanich home ownership is pretty much the same as the rest of the country at around 68%.

 

Now, let's look at the Saanich map.

 

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Seems to me there is lots of places for housing.

 

Saanich density:  1,136.6/km2

CoV density:  4,722.3/km2


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 March 2023 - 04:25 AM.


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Posted 26 March 2023 - 04:30 AM

I've taken the liberty of adding a new subdivision to the forested Mount Douglas Park area. 

 

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Some spectacular views from these treed lots, and it's pure revenue for the municipality.  They can earn about $700 million from the sale, to build social housing in Burnside/Tillicum.

 

 

 



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Posted 26 March 2023 - 04:37 AM

Here is some property you can buy, Saanich.  Just buy it and get someone to build 350 bachelor units.   Easy.

 

https://www.saanichn...nt-opportunity/


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Posted 26 March 2023 - 05:51 AM


The 2020 housing needs report prepared for the district by Urban Matters showed Saanich could require 3,049 new homes by 2025 and the community could see 5,290 new households by that date. It recommended Saanich complete 610 new units a year to meet demand.


It would appear to me that someone at Urban Matters needs to buy a new calculator.

If "Saanich could require" 3,049 new homes by 2025 (3 years from now) and they recommend that 610 new units be built a year then that would mean there would be 1,830 new units in 3 years....far short of the 3,049 mentioned above.

Maybe that's why there is a housing shortage. Political math fail.

I have no idea how to digest the statement "and the community could see 5,290 new households by that date". Will the overflow be living in tents?
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Posted 26 March 2023 - 05:53 AM

Ya, I had to read it twice to not understand it either.


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Posted 26 March 2023 - 07:21 AM

It was 2020-2025, which works out to 610/year.

Interestingly, I made a report for a Vancouver developer on the Saanich market. They could not believe how much demand there was for Saanich housing. Today, their proposal is underway and one of the largest ever in that community. I’ll leave it to you to figure out which one it is.

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Posted 26 March 2023 - 09:39 AM

Government House grounds would be a great spot to develop. Convert the mansion into a public space. School, library, including a restaurant. Keep some central green space around it. Then mixed density throughout.
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Posted 26 March 2023 - 11:11 AM

Plus, what an excellent decolonization gesture that would be!
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Posted 26 March 2023 - 11:58 AM

 

an excellent decolonization

 

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