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#22861 grantpalin

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Posted 13 May 2021 - 08:09 PM

My parents live out that way, maybe about a 15 minute walk from there. Dad told me that one of those existing townhouses sold just before announcement was made of the new complex, and multiple other units and houses nearby were listed shortly after. Apparently they hadn't sold in some while, though I don't see any listings on Realtor in that area currently.



#22862 Midnightly

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Posted 13 May 2021 - 11:35 PM

BC Housing has released a statement just now confirming 191 people have been placed into housing or shelter, out of 220 identified.

This would line up with the 30 spaces ready for occupancy tomorrow at the Tiny Homes Village.

 

so i should be able to go to beacon hill on saturday, or vic west skate park and not see a single tent?



#22863 VIResident

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 04:10 AM

I would suggest that it's politicians and their political backers who have turned a blind eye, and select groups in the mainstream media. Residents of Victoria are very concerned about what has happened, but the leadership of Victoria is not lending an ear and works to undermine those concerns as hearsay or intolerance.

 

The crime in Victoria started rising in 2014. Through 2013 it was on a downward trajectory. The only thing that changed between 2013 and 2014 was politics.

 

What of the general public who've turned a blind-eye?

 

We've seen in recent history that 'leadership' in any community will not turn a blind-eye if a majority of the public is mad-as-hell.  

 

"I want you to get up right now. Sit up. Go to your windows. Open them and stick your head out and yell – ‘I’m as mad as hell and I’m not gonna take this anymore!’ Things have got to change. But first, you’ve gotta get mad!…You’ve got to say, ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not gonna take this anymore!’ Then we’ll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first, get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not gonna take this anymore!’- American playwright, screenwriter and novelist Sidney Aaron “Paddy” Chayefsky


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#22864 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 04:14 AM

I have said before. council has used the cover of covid to run rampant. if in person council meetings with the public were still being held they’d heard it every single week at public input time.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 May 2021 - 04:14 AM.

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 04:23 AM

I have said before. council has used the cover of covid to run rampant. if in person council meetings with the public were still being held they’d heard it every single week at public input time.

 

I'm not so sure VW.  



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Posted 14 May 2021 - 05:13 AM

Bylaw staff have been threatened, chased and intimidated while monitoring shelters in parks, and the city does not allow officers to visit certain areas unless ­accompanied by police. Last week, Shannon Perkins, manager of bylaw services, told council there were eight areas of the city where bylaw staff can’t work without support from police. “This is the highest number of elevated risk areas we have ever had. Police support for bylaw enforcement is limited, and some enforcement activity cannot occur without their presence, and this slows our work down,” she said.

https://www.timescol...oors-1.24319142

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 May 2021 - 05:13 AM.


#22867 tommy

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:02 AM

the very definition of induced demand!

 

The suspect, a 44-year-old Kelowna man who came to Victoria in January,

 

 

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:06 AM

I'm not so sure VW.  

 

Most people are running their butts off trying to balance work, family and breaking even. Most do not have the time to spend 6 hours at a council meeting hoping to get 3 minutes to speak their mind. The exception of course are those who are fortunate enough to have jobs that pay them well but don't require any real effort or don't have jobs at all but enjoy the largess of government money or funding from their buddies at City Hall.


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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:11 AM

anyway.  tiny homes open today.  so homelessness is over.

 

close up this thread.


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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:17 AM

anyway.  tiny homes open today.  so homelessness is over.

 

close up this thread.

 

Done! :D

 

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#22871 JimV

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 06:12 PM

I took a little walk through BHP this evening from the Beacon Hill Drive-In along Fountain Lake and then the path by Goodacre to Toronto Street.  I counted 26 tents in that little area, 6 or 8 of them the big slovenly encampments with adjacent debris heaps; you know the kind.  This was before 7pm, i.e. no camping hours.  Good to know they will all be gone by tomorrow morning per the latest deadline.


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#22872 Nparker

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 06:20 PM

... Good to know they will all be gone by tomorrow morning per the latest deadline.

Lemme know how that goes.


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#22873 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 06:23 PM

Wasn't the deadline today?


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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:11 PM

Wasn't the deadline today?

Did the CoV get their injunction yet, like Stephen Andrew said was necessary to actually enforce the bylaw?



#22875 Nparker

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 09:34 PM

Did the CoV get their injunction yet, like Stephen Andrew said was necessary to actually enforce the bylaw?

An injunction should have been drawn up and ready to file with the courts as soon as the agreement was made between the CoV and the Province.



#22876 tommy

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 12:06 AM

you know, all this time the CofV could have been offsetting costs just by registering here  ;-)

 

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 03:37 AM

B.C. Housing said as of Thursday, 191 people who had been sheltering in parks had moved indoors. With the opening of the tiny homes, they anticipate 220 people will have moved indoors by next week, which is the number of people they counted sheltering in Victoria parks early this year. Most of the indoor spaces secured by the province are now occupied or in the process of being occupied.

B.C. Housing said there are still people unhoused in the city, and outreach workers continue to visit parks daily to help people fill out supportive housing applications. All-day camping in city parks is no longer permitted.

https://www.timescol...igns-1.24319456

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 May 2021 - 03:37 AM.


#22878 kitty surprise

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 05:57 AM

B.C. Housing said as of Thursday, 191 people who had been sheltering in parks had moved indoors. With the opening of the tiny homes, they anticipate 220 people will have moved indoors by next week, which is the number of people they counted sheltering in Victoria parks early this year. Most of the indoor spaces secured by the province are now occupied or in the process of being occupied.

B.C. Housing said there are still people unhoused in the city, and outreach workers continue to visit parks daily to help people fill out supportive housing applications. All-day camping in city parks is no longer permitted.

https://www.timescol...igns-1.24319456


Wouldn't now be the perfect time to introduce mandatory registration for anyone wishing to camp overnight?

- Contact park services and request overnight camping.

- Park services will provide application form where person must complete registration form, provide full name with photo ID.

- Park services receives completed application form and performs eligibility check.

- Eligibility check consists of: check name against various databases, e.g. unpaid camping fees or other unpaid city fees (unpaid traffic violations, unpaid parking, unpaid taxes etc), criminal record, warrants, also any flags from Canada-wide shelters/supportive/temporary housing databases. Finally, a check against all shelters and other indoor spaces availability. If indoor spaces available, applicant is denied for camping and a reservation made for them at available indoor location.

- Once applicant passes above eligibility check they are asked to select their Camping Plan:

Camping Plan A: $10 - Camping only
Camping Plan B: $10 - Camping fee waived and free breakfast waiting for you at Red Cedar Cafe.

I would be thrilled to lead a project for the city to develop this process and operationalize it. I can put this into Visio for heaven's sake. I really wonder if the city is deliberately keeping process vague.
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#22879 VIResident

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 06:56 AM

Wouldn't now be the perfect time to introduce mandatory registration for anyone wishing to camp overnight?

- Contact park services and request overnight camping.

- Park services will provide application form where person must complete registration form, provide full name with photo ID.

- Park services receives completed application form and performs eligibility check.

- Eligibility check consists of: check name against various databases, e.g. unpaid camping fees or other unpaid city fees (unpaid traffic violations, unpaid parking, unpaid taxes etc), criminal record, warrants, also any flags from Canada-wide shelters/supportive/temporary housing databases. Finally, a check against all shelters and other indoor spaces availability. If indoor spaces available, applicant is denied for camping and a reservation made for them at available indoor location.

- Once applicant passes above eligibility check they are asked to select their Camping Plan:

Camping Plan A: $10 - Camping only
Camping Plan B: $10 - Camping fee waived and free breakfast waiting for you at Red Cedar Cafe.

I would be thrilled to lead a project for the city to develop this process and operationalize it. I can put this into Visio for heaven's sake. I really wonder if the city is deliberately keeping process vague.

 

Brilliant!  You know those cute little 'tourist info' centres all across BC?  We should set something like those up, strategically placed of course and that's where people who have no means to do any of the above online to 'check in'.  



#22880 JimV

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Posted 15 May 2021 - 08:00 AM

Lemme know how that goes.

Hey, they’re still there.  I’m shocked.  When city council hears about this they’ll be right on it.


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