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#22821 spanky123

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 05:28 PM

i'm guessing it's a COVID thing. but not sure how long we keep using that. i understand that many homeless refuse the vaccines but then they should not be allowed in the shelter.


Ok but wouldn’t it have been a covid thing last week when Eby told us that 100 people were moving into Russell and tiny homes? Will covid be the excuse then for not enforcing 24*7 camping?

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 05:44 PM

...Will covid be the excuse then for not enforcing 24/7 camping?

I am sure it will be one of the excuses.


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#22823 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 12:13 PM

The City of Kelowna's new designated homeless camping location opened Wednesday evening.

 

"The new site is larger (and) purpose-built. The ground itself is more amenable to overnight camping and the use of tent pegs and the like. It's less exposed and we're optimistic that it will be used more by those who need to shelter outdoors in our community," said Kelowna community safety director Darren Caul.

 

The new shelter location isn't far from the old one, only a few hundred metres down the rail trail near the corner of Richter Street and Weddell Place. It is now surrounded by bushes and trees that provide shelter and privacy, in addition to running water and extra security.

 

"CCTV cameras are fixed on that site. (We have) more than doubled the number of hours of private security who are on the site and immediately around the site."

 

Drone video of the new site located between Canada Post and the Rail Trail shows the work done to build a berm, add trees, grass and foliage to help separate the location from the rail trail.

 

Caul says it's too early to tell whether the new site will be used more by those who need it, but he indicated the city is already looking forward to the day when the site will be converted into a small park or sitting area.

 

VIDEO:   https://www.castanet...en-after-moving

 

 

it's open every day from 6pm to 9am.  bylaw and RCMP show up before 9am to make sure everyone "de-camps" daily.


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Posted 10 May 2021 - 05:23 PM

Vancouver taxpayers on hook for at least $3.5 million for Oppenheimer homeless camp

 

One year after an 18-month homeless encampment at Oppenheimer Park was cleared as part of the province’s COVID-19 response, we are getting a closer look at the multi-million dollar bill Vancouver taxpayers are facing. Kristen Robinson reports.

https://globalnews.c...-homeless-camp/


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Posted 11 May 2021 - 06:22 PM

California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Tuesday proposed $12 billion in new funding to get more people experiencing homelessness in the state into housing and to “functionally end family homelessness” within five years.

 

Newsom's plan was announced in a statement and he was expected to provide more details at a media event Tuesday morning in San Diego County. The first-term Democrat faces a recall election, mounted by Republicans and others unhappy with the way he has handled the pandemic, the economy and government.

 

The nation’s most populous state has an estimated 161,000 people experiencing homelessness, which is more than any other state.

 

 

 

https://thinkpol.ca/...tates-homeless/


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 08:49 AM

B.C. Premier asked to intervene in Penticton homeless shelter dispute

Mayor sends letter urging premier to reconsider Eby’s use of paramountcy powers

 

https://www.kelownac...helter-dispute/

 

 

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Dear Premier Horgan,

I am writing on behalf of the citizens of Penticton urging you to resolve the impasse between City residents and the Attorney General and Minister of Housing, David Eby. Penticton voters have expressed overwhelming support in two surveys for you to step in and work with City Council to correct the Minister’s handling of a temporary winter shelter located in the downtown core.

Penticton residents care about housing for those in need. The proof is evident from our past experience working with Provincial Ministers and BC Housing. Our city of 33,000 helps provide 1,906 provincially-funded units of non-market housing. This housing is the result of positive partnerships that reflect the very spirit of your own commitment to work with local municipalities.

However, under Minister Eby’s leadership, your government has changed course on cooperating with local communities. The Minister has misinformed British Columbians by inferring that Penticton is not doing its part in supportive housing. This is despite his own Ministry’s data indicating that Penticton has the highest number of supportive beds per capita in the B.C. interior.

Your government has been silent on the negative impact the shelter has had on vulnerable senior citizens, particularly on two seniors’ residences directly across the street. A crime density map shows that the shelter at 352 Winnipeg Street has become the epicentre for property crime in Penticton. This is a costly drain on police, fire and bylaw resources as well as being harmful to surrounding residents and businesses.

Your government has not been silent, however, on provoking and polarizing legitimate concerns. Minister Eby threatened to bring 1,000 tents and sleeping bags into the City when the shelter’s permit for lawful use in winter expired. It is odd that the Province’s top lawyer is silent on protecting vulnerable senior citizens from crime but vocal on encouraging Provincial action which directly inflicts such crime on those same senior citizens.

While there’s never a problem-free shelter location, integrating a shelter into surrounding neighbourhoods can be successful when Provincial leadership listens to the public and local concerns. Solving problems for one group should never bring harm or risk of safety to another. The goal should be to work together to find a better shelter location.

Penticton’s united City Council, along with thousands of residents who share our concerns, do not believe that your government is listening. We hope you will. We request your intervention to ensure the Province returns to working in partnership with Penticton and other municipalities to solve the housing issues. What may work in Victoria for temporary housing does not necessarily work for the rest of B.C.

As a start, please reconsider Minister Eby’s threat to invoke Provincial paramountcy to maintain an unlawful use of the shelter and instead direct BC Housing to apply solutions already suggested by City staff to find a better location, as Penticton Council requested in October 2020.

Respectfully,

John Vassilaki Mayor of Penticton


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#22827 Nparker

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Posted 12 May 2021 - 08:54 AM

...What may work in Victoria for temporary housing does not necessarily work for the rest of B.C...

It doesn't work in Victoria either. Sadly, the CoV has a council that has little to no concern for many of the people they are supposed to represent.


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 09:31 AM

It doesn't work in Victoria either. Sadly, the CoV has a council that has little to no concern for many of the people they are supposed to represent.

Exactly....
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Posted 12 May 2021 - 09:44 AM

Vic West residents are still in the dark as to what the game plan is for their neighbourhood. Nobody knows (at least not publicly) a thing about the Catherine site, or what the long-term plans are for Russell Street.


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 09:45 AM

tiny homes opens today, no?

 

so today is the last day of daytime park camping?

 

all the motorhomes are gone from BHP now?


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#22831 Mike K.

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Posted 12 May 2021 - 09:50 AM

It opens on Friday. There's a delay for fire alarm tests.


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 09:53 AM

It opens on Friday. There's a delay for fire alarm tests.

Testing to see how quickly they can be disconnected by the future residents?



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Posted 12 May 2021 - 09:55 AM

It opens on Friday. There's a delay for fire alarm tests.

 

I'm sure they'll be tested pretty quickly one way or another.  


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 10:45 AM

Vic West residents are still in the dark as to what the game plan is for their neighbourhood. Nobody knows (at least not publicly) a thing about the Catherine site, or what the long-term plans are for Russell Street.

 

Simple math suggests there isn't enough space to cover the number of people currently camping. Eby said there would be 100 spaces between Russell St and the Tiny slum and yet we find out the plan was only ever for 60. Even the 100 spaces wasn't sufficient for the 204 people identified as campers.

 

My guess is that the BHP campers will be quietly moved to another park so that Eby and Helps can claim victory yet we will continue to see 24x7 camping and the CoV will do nothing to stop it.



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Posted 12 May 2021 - 10:53 AM

Isn’t capacity at Russell 70 shelter spaces, with 30 at the tiny homes?

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Posted 12 May 2021 - 11:39 AM

Isn’t capacity at Russell 70 shelter spaces, with 30 at the tiny homes?

 

That is what we were told but the latest release is that BC Housing has limited capacity to 30 people. 

 

Now the reality is that they are probably having a tough time getting even 30 people to move so it may likely just be a PR play.



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Posted 12 May 2021 - 12:04 PM

I thought the 30 spaces at Russell were part of a phased approach to capacity, for things to get ironed out before full capacity can be accommodated? It's tough to know what's really going on when the agencies involved are not overly communicative, at least not publicly.


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 12:33 PM

I thought the 30 spaces at Russell were part of a phased approach to capacity, for things to get ironed out before full capacity can be accommodated? It's tough to know what's really going on when the agencies involved are not overly communicative, at least not publicly.

 

While the shelter has space for about 70 people, the ­capacity is currently limited by the ­province to 30, Mingo said.

 

https://www.timescol...oors-1.24315266



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Posted 12 May 2021 - 01:49 PM

Right, currently limited to 30. I think they need to work out the kinks before opening capacity further.


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 01:53 PM

Right, currently limited to 30. I think they need to work out the kinks before opening capacity further.

 

Sure but how does that get 70 people out of tents by this week as promised or as I suggested earlier does it just give an excuse to say everyone has been offered housing but since it isn't available yet we will leave 24x7 camping open ended until it is.

 

BTW, word on the street is that they haven't been able to fill the 30 beds yet.


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