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#22801 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 07:17 PM

 

 

None of these events were crimes or resulted in a call to police, so according to the news and council, I must have been perceiving things that weren't there. And for the record, as of this morning, there were as many tents in Irving Park and Beacon Hill Park as at any time since council let them in, so I don't know what the mayor is talking about.

 

oh well.  we tried.  


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Posted 04 May 2021 - 07:22 PM

Residents shocked by shelter

 

 

Residents in Vic West in Victoria were surprised as campers sheltering in Victoria parks began moving into their neighbourhood this week.

 

CTV News Vancouver Island is reporting the new Russell Street shelter in Vic West is now open and will house up to 60 people in individual pods.

 

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One Vic West resident says the shelter opening was a surprise.

 

“This is a shock to us still,” said Tony Young, adding that the community is bracing for the worst.

 

“There are things that are going to happen and there’s probably going to be more criminal activity,” said Young. “Drug use and so forth and we’re concerned about that.”

 

“Approximately 106 people are waiting to move into shelters on Russell Street, tiny homes and a few other spaces here and there,” said Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps.

 

Helps says after recent violent incidents in Victoria parks, getting everyone housed can’t come soon enough.

 

“When people are not living in parks, it doesn’t attract the kind of violence that can happen,” said Helps. “The inside opportunities can’t come soon enough from everyone’s perspective, including mine.”

 

 

https://www.castanet...est-in-Victoria


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Posted 04 May 2021 - 07:36 PM

^ The Russell Street facility experienced their first overdose less than two hours of opening the door.

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 08:41 PM

^ The Russell Street facility experienced their first overdose less than two hours of opening the door.

That was quick... i wonder if it's a new record



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Posted 05 May 2021 - 02:13 AM

^ The Russell Street facility experienced their first overdose less than two hours of opening the door.


proof it's working! 1 life saved already. you need to move quickly to eliminate the stigma.

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 05:14 AM

They should go to work like the rest of us

 

I object to the B.C. government using my hard-earned money to purchase hotels and spend copious hordes of money to refurbish them just so we can house the layabouts.

 

The crowning blow is supplying them with three meals a day. As far as I’m concerned, they should give them a bus ticket to ship them off to where they came from.

 

I went to school and college, got a good job and was a success, I might add, to earn my way in this world of ours. From my side of the fence, these recalcitrant squatters that are desecrating our parks should be sent flying.

 

They have no ambition as far as I can see. On top of all this, the city has to deal with their chosen habit of doing drugs; isn’t that enough?

 

Certainly it’s not a great image for the beautiful garden city of Victoria. When will the government run out of money and hotels to buy to house these individuals, because if they are not nipped in the bud, they will just keep coming and coming, year in, year out, to squat in our parks.

 

It’s a Catch-22 situation, in my opinion.

 

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 05:16 AM

Beacon Hill campers a sign of things to come

 

The Times Colonist could not have planned a series of news stories better designed to infuriate Victorians than the recent reports this week.

 

First, we have the fool who drove an unregistered, uninsured car from Alberta to camp in a Victoria park and ended up doing doughnuts in a James Bay park, where he was arrested. Oh great, now our parks are a known camping destination.

 

Then we have Saturday’s report of Beacon Hill campers who don’t intend to leave. One woman (“Potato”) can’t figure out how to live indoors since graduating from high school four years ago.

 

This is followed by Max, who’s repairing bicycles in his tent because he can’t do that in an apartment or hotel room, and besides, he’s living rent-free. Talk about self-entitled. And is he being given free meals each day?

 

These are not the homeless; they’re people with a chosen lifestyle — the same as those illegally camped in RVs in the park and on the road.

 

It’s not the meek who shall inherit the Earth, it’s the entitled, and they’ve already inherited Beacon Hill Park.

 

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 05:51 AM

Nancy is one of about 10 people who moved into the shelter on its opening day, and more were trickling in Tuesday morning. Outreach workers welcomed them with intake forms, going over the shelter’s rules barring physical violence, weapons, sexual harassment, verbal abuse and drug use in a two-block radius outside of the ­property, among other expectations.

 

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Our Place staff are planning on assembling a “clean team” of shelter residents who are interested in picking up litter from the surrounding neighbourhood, and two people have already expressed interest, Mingo said.

 

Shelter design and ­management are aimed at mitigating the risk of drug overdose, with communal areas where people are encouraged to use in the presence of someone else and shower doors that include a small communication area that allows staff to speak to and hear residents inside without seeing them.

 

Staff will check on people using the shower units after 10 minutes, and if they don’t get a response, they’ll go inside to see how they’re doing, Mingo said.

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Our Place staff will be on site 24/7, and outreach workers from PEERS Victoria Resources Society and AVI Health and Community Services will provide some daytime harm-reduction support.

 

Residents are also asked to provide information about what substances they use, how they use them and how often, to give staff a sense of residents’ baselines and what signs of distress to look out for.

 

While the shelter has space for about 70 people, the ­capacity is currently limited by the ­province to 30, Mingo said.

 

https://www.timescol...oors-1.24315266


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#22809 Mike K.

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 05:56 AM

I don’t understand how you can maintain that level of data on 70 people. It’s a shelter, which means there’s going to be turnover, and the ratio of staff to shelter residents is likely to be 1:20 at best. I was driving down Esquimalt yesterday and was passed by an ambulance that turned and shot straight for the shelter. Maybe that was the reported overdose?

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 06:45 AM

Stephanie Hardman is fighting to keep 7x24 camping going....

 

Well one thing that Stephanie has shown is that at $15K a 'door', the team that "refurbished" the centre appeared to have done quite well for themselves. I wonder if that is what happens when you don't tender work?


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Posted 05 May 2021 - 07:46 AM

Somebody on Reddit suggested the name Tweakin' Hill Park which I had a good laugh at despite all of the chaos


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Posted 05 May 2021 - 07:56 AM

Nancy is one of about 10 people who moved into the shelter on its opening day, and more were trickling in Tuesday morning. Outreach workers welcomed them with intake forms, going over the shelter’s rules barring physical violence, weapons, sexual harassment, verbal abuse and drug use in a two-block radius outside of the ­property, among other expectations.

 

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Beyond two blocks, fill your boots!


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#22813 A Girl is No one

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 08:40 AM

Beyond two blocks, fill your boots!

Yup it’s always the exact same song. They haven’t changed a word in years despite knowing full well (we knew then) that the neighbourhood will suffer. Beyond two blocks they don’t care. They also used to tell us, as if this was reassuring: don’t worry they don’t steal where they live. Never within two blocks. Even that didn’t turn out to be true.

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 08:45 AM

Somebody on Reddit suggested the name Tweakin' Hill Park which I had a good laugh at despite all of the chaos

Tweaktoria might be more appropriate since it covers most of the city already...
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Posted 05 May 2021 - 09:14 AM

I went to school and college, got a good job and was a success, I might add, to earn my way in this world of ours. From my side of the fence, these recalcitrant squatters that are desecrating our parks should be sent flying.

 

I am using that word on my next Toastmasters word of the day :)


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Posted 05 May 2021 - 01:46 PM

 

Helps says after recent violent incidents in Victoria parks, getting everyone housed can’t come soon enough.

 

“When people are not living in parks, it doesn’t attract the kind of violence that can happen,” said Helps. “The inside opportunities can’t come soon enough from everyone’s perspective, including mine.”

 

 

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Yep.  Just like that 'residential building in the 800 block of Johnson St':  No violent incidents have ever happened there


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Posted 05 May 2021 - 02:25 PM

Just noticed that the TC article states that although the capacity of Russel St is 70, it is being limited to 30! 

 

So how then does BC Housing add 30 + 30 Tiny homes (assuming they are not also limited) and get to 100 people they claim have been offered space? Is this another lie to residents to appease them into believing that 24x7 camping is ending at THP?!

 

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 02:36 PM

It’ll ramp up to 70 once they get the hang of things, I think.

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 04:29 PM

Yep. Just like that 'residential building in the 800 block of Johnson St': No violent incidents have ever happened there

She knows full well that crime is going to go up in that neighbourhood. Some people will likely get assaulted and some might even die.
There’s a reason why she’s not having any where she lives.
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#22820 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 04:51 PM

Just noticed that the TC article states that although the capacity of Russel St is 70, it is being limited to 30! 

 

So how then does BC Housing add 30 + 30 Tiny homes (assuming they are not also limited) and get to 100 people they claim have been offered space? Is this another lie to residents to appease them into believing that 24x7 camping is ending at THP?!

 

https://www.timescol...oors-1.24315266

 

i'm guessing it's a COVID thing.  but not sure how long we keep using that.  i understand that many homeless refuse the vaccines but then they should not be allowed in the shelter.



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