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#23101 Mike K.

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 04:25 PM

Safe cigarettes and joints.

We’ve officially ...I don’t even know any more.
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#23102 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 04:27 PM

Free Housing!

Free Food!

Free Drugs!

and now...

 

We will even do your laundry for you!

 

https://www.martlet....-laundrolounge/

 

 

SOLID, AVI, and PEERS outreach workers are at the site most weeks — handing out safe supplies of cigarettes and joints, as well as food and information about available resources.

 

 



#23103 kitty surprise

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 05:21 PM

For us non-smokers, can they please instead provide safe plane tickets to Hawaii? Maui preferred.
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#23104 Matt R.

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Posted 17 June 2021 - 10:29 PM

Oh nice. What’s the address?

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#23105 spanky123

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 07:56 AM

Safe cigarettes and joints.

We’ve officially ...I don’t even know any more.

 

There is no motivation (or profit) in helping people transition to healthy productive lifestyles. Keep them high and stupid and the money will keep flowing in.


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#23106 A Girl is No one

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 09:26 AM

Does that mean they get to take a markup on the cigarettes and pot they provide? They probably do on injection needles.

That would be quite questionable, from an ethical perspective… if they had any ethics.

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 09:33 AM

I don’t understand the “safe” cigarette reference.

Are these cancer free?
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#23108 kitty surprise

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 09:46 AM

For a socialist government, the irony in doling out free items (drugs, bus fare, cigs, etc) to just be resold is too delicious to ignore.

 

In other words, our socialist government is now actively encouraging the growth and entrenchment of the evil Gig Economy.

 

Take that, Unions!


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#23109 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 09:52 AM

I don’t understand the “safe” cigarette reference.

Are these cancer free?

 

probably some nonsense about the smokes traded on the streets (singles and indian reserve) are the bootleg type, and so might contain bad products.  so we need to protect the vulnerable smokers.



#23110 Mike K.

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 10:48 AM

I would not be surprised if these are privately rolled (i.e. not corporate-made) cigarettes.


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Posted 18 June 2021 - 10:56 AM

I agree that laundry services need to be provided.  I also agree that those who are in need of such services should be the ones volunteering to run, clean and maintain the place.  The funding keeps flowing to these organizations with no 'end to homelessness' in sight.  


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#23112 spanky123

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 12:45 PM

I agree that laundry services need to be provided.  I also agree that those who are in need of such services should be the ones volunteering to run, clean and maintain the place.  The funding keeps flowing to these organizations with no 'end to homelessness' in sight.  

 

We have to pay City employees to clean up after the homeless in their own camps. Why would you think for a second they would do their own laundry?

 

Perhaps if we instituted a "free but you have to work for it or help out" policy we might finally end homelessness in Victoria.


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#23113 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 01:04 PM

“Free but you have to work for it” works great in the massive part of society that is not homeless.

It’s called pay for it with your money.

That can work just fine for laundry too.

If you are so ****ed up that you are choosing between a $4 laundry load or more crack you should be forcefully taken off the street and put in an institute.

and not mt. tolmie hospital to terrorize that neighbourhood as has now begun:

https://www.vicnews....fters-to-leave/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 18 June 2021 - 01:11 PM.

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#23114 A Girl is No one

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 02:33 PM

That is very close to the new low barrier housing indeed.

#23115 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 05:33 AM

Central Saanich calls for delay in supportive housing project deadline

 

Municipality wants more say in eventual choice of contractor to run supportive housing project

 

https://www.vicnews....oject-deadline/

 

 

Council also agreed to ask Island Health about its plans to support future residents at the facility.

 

 

^ read between the lines with me on this one.  "will it have a safe injection site"?


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#23116 spanky123

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 07:31 AM

Central Saanich calls for delay in supportive housing project deadline

 

Municipality wants more say in eventual choice of contractor to run supportive housing project

 

 

Nice of them to want a say, the question remains as to whether they will get one. That doesn't seem to be Mr. Eby's style.


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#23117 Greg

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 07:45 AM

An actual discussion focused on the idea that not all supportive housing contractors are equal might be a good thing. One could even dream of performance standards existing and being reviewed.


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#23118 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 07:46 AM

it seems they always just grab the usual ones off the shelf on a rotational basis.

Our place
Portland
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#23119 A Girl is No one

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Posted 21 June 2021 - 09:42 AM

I asked before about the procurement process for these years ago . Got no answer. It doesn’t seem to follow the standard procedures.
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#23120 A Girl is No one

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Posted 26 June 2021 - 05:52 AM

Thé LA sheriff gets it… let’s hope he starts something…

« You cannot build your way out of homelessness,” Villanueva said. “It was the Los Angeles Homeless Authority themselves that said for every 100 that we house, they’re replaced by 120 on the street – that math seems to elude these people … our elected officials.” »

https://justthenews....aign=newsletter
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