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#2181 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 August 2020 - 12:41 PM



MoTI added that sound barrier walls that meet the ministry’s standards have been installed at the interchange and that landscaping will be completed along with other final pieces – including bus stops and a stormwater treatment pond – after the loop ramp opens at the end of August.

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Posted 14 August 2020 - 04:32 PM

The ramp opens Saturday. It'll be so nice to avoid the lineup to turn left.
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Posted 14 August 2020 - 04:34 PM

great intel tanker!

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Posted 14 August 2020 - 05:03 PM

The ramp opens Saturday. It'll be so nice to avoid the lineup to turn left.

 

It'll be great.  The lineup backed up around the offramp and up the hill to the Burnside light will be so much nicer :)


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Posted 15 August 2020 - 09:32 AM

bct really should look at express buses or at least dropping the mckenzie stop.  can anyone that takes that bus report on passenger pick-ups/drop off at mckenzie/admirals? 

 

right now google says 16 minutes by car into town and 26 minutes by bus.  that must be 10 minutes of stopping.

 

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Posted 15 August 2020 - 11:02 AM

bct really should look at express buses or at least dropping the mckenzie stop.  can anyone that takes that bus report on passenger pick-ups/drop off at mckenzie/admirals? 

 

right now google says 16 minutes by car into town and 26 minutes by bus.  that must be 10 minutes of stopping.

 

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Is that any worse than the Pat Bay/McKenzie stop the 70s heading to Swartz Bay use?

 

Either way they probably can't until there's a bus going up Admirals. Burnside isn't too far to each the 22 but Cowper for the 11 in the other direction might be (especially for mobility challenges)



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Posted 15 August 2020 - 11:05 AM

well i'm not a fan of the #70 either.  if we are serious about climate change we'd have direct buses to and from the ferry.  maybe even throw in the bus fare for free with ferry walk-on ticket.  then we'd reduce the number of car pick-ups and drop-offs at the ferry and also decrease drive-ons in favour of a few more walk-ons.

 

or three buses each sailing could be direct and one with other stops etc.


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Posted 15 August 2020 - 11:28 AM

We need services to the West Shore. Right now everything is downtown-focused and if you live west of the 17 spine you’re out of luck.

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Posted 15 August 2020 - 11:36 AM

well i'm not a fan of the #70 either.  if we are serious about climate change we'd have direct buses to and from the ferry.  maybe even throw in the bus fare for free with ferry walk-on ticket.  then we'd reduce the number of car pick-ups and drop-offs at the ferry and also decrease drive-ons in favour of a few more walk-ons.

 

or three buses each sailing could be direct and one with other stops etc.

I think the problem is our system is more focused on hitting key points than A to B coverage. I think the only express routes still in use are 27/28 and I would bet if Gordon Head had a terminus they'd be gone too as their only real advantage is not making Blair/Laval residents go all the way through GH in the AM and Majestic/Kenmore residents in the PM. 

 

Routes like 39 really emphasize this. Its entire route in westshore is essentially zig-zagging to hit all the key points. It would probably be much quicker to say stick to Langford Parkway until VMP then go straight to Kelly instead of turning on Jacklin, going to Goldstream then turn back to Kelly. The 70 also randomly juts into downtown Sidney just to hit 1 stop each direction and leave the same way it came in. I think if they really cared they could make a lot of routes a lot snappier but then it would require extra transfers and people always complain about that.



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Posted 21 September 2020 - 06:48 AM

car commute time in today is 16 minutes at 7:45am.  bus is 25 minutes.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 10:40 AM

There really should be an express bus to Sooke that would also double as a express version of the 50. It could stop at the Legislature, Bay Centre, Bay/Hillside, Mayfair, Uptown, Tillicum, Helmcken, Six Mile, Colwood Exchange, Veterans Memorial, Langford Exchange, Jacklin & Jenkins, Jacklin & Sooke, Sooke & Happy Valley, then straight to Sooke (or maybe a stop or two in between). 

I often visit my dad in the Happy Valley area by bus from downtown and the whole Langford Exchange loop when the 50 becomes the 61 adds about 5 minutes to the whole trip and feels so unnecessarily convoluted. An express bus could just go down Peatt, along Station then straight onto Jacklin. There's also a ton of housing that's been built along the 61 route through Langford (Belmont residences, the church building across the street, the affordable housing project at Happy Valley & Sooke, etc.), not to mention all of the development in Sooke itself. It's crazy that there's such a low frequency of transit service along the route.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 10:47 AM

Yes, Sooke is very, very badly serviced by BC Transit considering its growth.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 11:02 AM

There really should be an express bus to Sooke that would also double as a express version of the 50. It could stop at the Legislature, Bay Centre, Bay/Hillside, Mayfair, Uptown, Tillicum, Helmcken, Six Mile, Colwood Exchange, Veterans Memorial, Langford Exchange, Jacklin & Jenkins, Jacklin & Sooke, Sooke & Happy Valley, then straight to Sooke (or maybe a stop or two in between). 

 

There was a 61X then they "replaced" it with the 65 when Westhills became a thing. BC Transit doesn't seem to like express variants anymore for some reason. There used to be other express routes but now it's just the 27 and 28 and routes that are always express (15, 16, 51). It only ran during rush hour anyway so I don't think it would help you if it was still around though. 



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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:04 AM

8am this morning:

 

18 minutes car

29 minutes bus

51 minutes proposed ferry (includes drive from goldstream and old island highway to royal bay, park, load, and walk from ship point to city hall at end of trip) 


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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:40 AM

Your 29 minutes by bus doesn't include the time to drive and/or walk to the bus stop, then walk from the bus stop to end of trip, and waiting at both ends of the route for the bus to arrive.


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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:42 AM

no. but it’s the same count from point a to b I’ve been using for 8 months now.

the bus lets you out at city hall that’s my end point. so no walk at each end though.

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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:46 AM

The Trans-Canada bus lanes have meshed nicely with the completed Mckenzie interchange. Widening the Burnside overpasses is in the plans next, together with building bus lanes for the Island Highway and Goldstream.
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Posted 06 October 2020 - 07:49 AM

Wow! When are they going to widen the Burnside bridges?


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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:06 AM

Your 29 minutes by bus doesn't include the time to drive and/or walk to the bus stop, then walk from the bus stop to end of trip, and waiting at both ends of the route for the bus to arrive.

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It does though. I just entered going from Uptown Walmart to UVic parking lot 4 (next to McGill road) and it says about how long it will take to walk to/from the stop and gives an estimated distance. The time walking is included in the total time



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Posted 06 October 2020 - 08:42 AM

mike had a hypothetical commuter that did not live right at goldstream and #14 though.


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