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[Bicycles] Regional Trails in Victoria: Galloping Goose, Lochside, Trans-Canada & E&N


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#1001 Rex Waverly

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Posted 21 July 2021 - 12:46 PM

 

Colwood is optimistic about a grant that would pave the way for a bridge across Island Highway for pedestrians and cyclists.

“We haven’t heard back yet on our application for a federal Infrastructure Canada grant,” said Mayor Rob Martin. “We’re expecting it to come through in August, and we’re really excited about the concept of continuing on the journey to create an active transportation model for our community that really encourages more people to be walking and biking.”

The crossing is pivotal because it’s the only interruption on the Capital Regional District’s Galloping Goose Trail, which is highly valued and well used, Martin noted.

 

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This would be a great addition to the trail.....   this section of the trail averages over 800 trips daily (up around 1200 / day on nice summer days). That's a lot of people to be diverting onto sidewalks / on-street bike lanes to cross at Island Highway / Ocean Blvd intersection.   And the number of trail users should increase substantially if this obstacle / detour is removed.  


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#1002 FogPub

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Posted 21 July 2021 - 11:52 PM

Far more of these bike path/major road crossings need to be off-grade.



#1003 Rex Waverly

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Posted 22 July 2021 - 09:50 AM

Far more of these bike path/major road crossings need to be off-grade.

 

True, ideally they'd all be grade separated. But this crossing is worse than most, since it's making cyclists detour via painted bike lanes on Wale (not AAA rated at all) and then having to cycle on the sidewalk on the east side of Island Highway (the sidewalk is double-wide but i don't think signed for use by cyclists so technically illegal).  Or worse still, if cyclists / peds don't see the detour signage, they are encouraged by the path design to cross Island Highway mid-block, which is clearly unsafe.   



#1004 Danma

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Posted 22 July 2021 - 10:07 AM

True, ideally they'd all be grade separated. But this crossing is worse than most, since it's making cyclists detour via painted bike lanes on Wale (not AAA rated at all) and then having to cycle on the sidewalk on the east side of Island Highway (the sidewalk is double-wide but i don't think signed for use by cyclists so technically illegal).  Or worse still, if cyclists / peds don't see the detour signage, they are encouraged by the path design to cross Island Highway mid-block, which is clearly unsafe.   

There's always the option of riding uphill on Old Island Highway which has bike lanes... but only til Goldstream. The section between Goldstream and the entrance to Royal Roads doesn't even have painted bike lanes, never mind a protected lane of any kind.

I agree that this area really does need a better implementation.



#1005 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 26 October 2021 - 06:06 AM

The proposal is to widen the sections to more than six metres. Four meters would be designated as the bike path, giving pedestrians two and a half metres of their own strolling space. Another recommendation looks to put lighting at junctions and underpasses to increase safety and visibility. The proposal includes adding low-intensity lights or reflectors near Swan Lake to minimize impacts on wildlife and improve safety.

 

Staff have put a $17.8-million price tag on the total project. While cost-saving options could shave off $4.6 million of that, the design compromises needed wouldn’t align with public feedback.

 

https://www.vicnews....ghting-project/


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#1006 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:40 AM

Work on connecting the E&N Rail Trail to the Galloping Goose Regional Trail at Victoria’s Johnson Street Bridge will begin next year.

 

The construction marks the fourth phase of the active transportation project, which will stretch about 17 kilometres once completed.

 

The 2022 work will extend the trail by 0.7 kilometres from where it ends on Esquimalt Road to the Harbour Road overpass, where the paved path would meet up with the Galloping Goose.

 

The trail currently runs continuously for 13 kilometres through six communities between Jacklin Road in Langford and Esquimalt Road in Victoria.

 

https://www.vicnews....begins-in-2022/


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#1007 Jacques Cadé

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 07:30 AM

It appears this last section involves building a protected bike lane along Kimta Road. That would be a loss, IMHO, and I'm a cyclist. Kimta is a wide street with hardly any traffic, and good cyclists can really fly along it. Completists may want a protected bike lane there, but for some of us it will actually make the cycling experience worse.


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#1008 Mike K.

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 08:24 AM

Normally municipal governments try to work with adjacent development projects for infrastructure like this, no? But here they’re going ahead without buy-in from Bayview? It feels like a lost financial opportunity, unless the funds for the Kimta lanes have to be used up by a certain date.
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Posted 24 November 2021 - 09:47 AM

All ages all ability bicycle lanes are not just for people who are able to fly along. It is a 30kph zone.

 

There are often lots of cars parked on both sides of the road. Little has been heard from the people who park along Kimta because they only have one parking space in their condo and they may only be able to park on one side after the bicycle lane is complete.

 

The Bayview development may still be years away.



#1010 freedom_2008

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 09:49 AM

It appears this last section involves building a protected bike lane along Kimta Road. That would be a loss, IMHO, and I'm a cyclist. Kimta is a wide street with hardly any traffic, and good cyclists can really fly along it. Completists may want a protected bike lane there, but for some of us it will actually make the cycling experience worse.

I believe the intent is to make this part of the All Ages and Abilities (kids, old folks, less competent bikers, etc) connected network, correct? People on bike who prefer to “fly along” will still have the option of cycling on the road if they prefer, just like I see along Dallas Rd lots of times now.



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Posted 24 November 2021 - 09:57 AM

It's a shame that access to Clover Point isn't considered necessary for all ages & abilities.


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Posted 24 November 2021 - 12:32 PM

It's a shame that access to Clover Point isn't considered necessary for all ages & abilities.

Who is excluded?




#1013 Nparker

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 12:47 PM

Who is excluded?

I assume this is a rhetorical question.



#1014 GaryOak

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 02:31 PM


There are often lots of cars parked on both sides of the road. Little has been heard from the people who park along Kimta because they only have one parking space in their condo and they may only be able to park on one side after the bicycle lane is complete.


That street is so widely that I doubt they will need to take way parking. There might be a slight inconvenience during construction but after that I don't see it affecting people much.

#1015 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 August 2022 - 07:03 AM

Cheaper alternatives to the proposed railway

I tend to agree with Premier John Horgan that restoring the railway line on the Island is no longer economically feasible.

 

Why not instead turn the existing railway bed into a hiking/biking trail such as was done with the highly popular P’tit Train du Nord linear park running through the Laurentians in Quebec?

 

This would not only provide more opportunity for islanders to exercise and enjoy healthier and longer lives, but also serve to attract more tourists to the island, especially with the growing popularity of e-bikes.

 

As for providing alternative means of travel for folks not wanting to use cars to move up and down the island for various reasons, how about providing an electric bus service to make use of existing roads and highways? That surely would be a lot cheaper than restoring the rail line.

 

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https://www.timescol...ndabout-5674540

 

 

 

 

 

You know.  Cordova Bay at Matticks would be a great place for an electric bike rental place.  Or even at McKenzie/Borden.  The Lochside Trail is pretty awesome.

 

 

 

Trek at Harbour Road rents bikes, that's not bad either.

 

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https://www.trekbike...ntals-pg183.htm


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#1016 LJ

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Posted 09 August 2022 - 07:57 PM

Pedego on Bellville rents bikes.


Life's a journey......so roll down the window and enjoy the breeze.

#1017 LJ

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 07:58 PM

So we took our first distance type ride today. Started at Jacklin Rd. in Langford, followed the E&N down to Songhees, then on to the Galloping Goose to return. About 15 miles worth. Was a lot of fun and saw a lot of stuff we had never seen before. 

A couple of observations, the area around Harbour road, Tyee and the GG was very congested with cars and bikes intermingling and starting and stopping.

Lots of pedestrians in the area taking up the whole lane as well, and folks with dogs on leashes that we weren't too certain if they were going to be reined in or not.

Spandex warriors just want to go as fast as they can everywhere and treat you as second class cyclists. The fun part is passing them on the uphill grades.


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#1018 Mike K.

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 09:07 PM

“The fun part is passing them on the uphill grades.”

Classic.

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Posted 29 August 2022 - 06:51 AM

He’s right. I love smoking past spandex warriors lol. Was funnier back before everyone and their grandma got electric bikes but still is a bit amusing.
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Posted 30 November 2022 - 11:20 AM

“Life of a mural: Octopus relieves Queen Victoria on long bike ride”:
https://www.timescol...ke-ride-6162454

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