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[G-Man]

Right I was just trying to make it easier to understand. How does the radiation collector work?

[VicHockeyFan]

My system is fairly primitive. Here is the inside of my place. The heat or whatever comes from that sign warms the oil in these barrels. The hot oil from the barrels mixes with the hot water from my tap ("I" don't pay for hot water, my neighbours and I pay for it communally) and then goes through standard radiators in each room. Then the oil is seperated and returns to the barrels for re-heating, while the water from the tap goes down the drain and out into the strait to help the bacteria break down the CRD's waste. The pump that runs this whole system runs on standard 120V, but I've drilled thru a wall common with my neighbour and plugged into his "grid" so he pays that bill.

[G-Man]

Clever! I guess the oil is more conductive than just water?

[Holden West]

My system is fairly primitive. Here is the inside of my place. The heat or whatever comes from that sign warms the oil in these barrels. The hot oil from the barrels mixes with the hot water from my tap ("I" don't pay for hot water, my neighbours and I pay for it communally) and then goes through standard radiators in each room. Then the oil is seperated and returns to the barrels for re-heating, while the water from the tap goes down the drain and out into the strait to help the bacteria break down the CRD's waste. The pump that runs this whole system runs on standard 120V, but I've drilled thru a wall common with my neighbour and plugged into his "grid" so he pays that bill.

VHF, if you increased the size of the collector, you could power the pump off the increased power and store the excess in an industrial Nickel Metal-Hydride storage battery. It probably wouldn't pay for itself for several years but it would be better environmentally. Plus the diverted neighbor's power could be used for other purposes.

BTW, I like the bookshelves on that wall better than where they were before. Nice.

[Savannah]

And third, we added to our mistakes by allowing an enormous piece of visual pollution to be erected that visually screams at us with unrelated commercial messages. In our lovely, clean and considered city, do we want that?

That part I agree with. I don't like the sign. It's distracting, overly bright, and annoying. I think I'm the one you're all honking at, because I am mesmerised at the traffic light staring at the damn thing with a combination of repulsion and fascination.

[Ms. B. Havin]

Every time I drive by the Victoria arena I sense a disconnect with the place.

I don't know ...I think he's on to something, even if the format of a letter to the editor doesn't allow him to get at it precisely.

I mean, do you all think this place "connects"? I don't. That name is a mouthful, and I don't care that cities all over N.America have done it (named arenas after businesses). The Mowry Baden piece is not a great piece of public art -- who the hell is actually engaging with it, in that location? And the sign is stupid. I also don't understand why the arena itself has such a big setback (the large apron). Does it need that much to collect/gather the attendees? Wouldn't they have enough room on the Blanshard sidewalk, which seems very capacious and underutilized? And the design itself: ok, it needs that humpbacked whale roof, but what about something a bit more vernacular along the street frontage (as in, "Hello, here is the entry to the greatest place on earth, step right up, over here!" v. the understated cool of the present entrance)? I mean, it's an arena, for heaven's sake -- you know, gladiators? -- it's not an art gallery or the symphony...

[VicHockeyFan]

Every time I drive by the Victoria arena I sense a disconnect with the place.

I also don't understand why the arena itself has such a big setback (the large apron). Does it need that much to collect/gather the attendees? ...

Yes, you should have seen Bill Clinton. It needed every sqaure inch of the plaza.

[Ms. B. Havin]

Sure, Bill Clinton needs every square inch of forecourt -- he's a big guy, even without the gladiator suit on. (Especially, apparently, without the suit on...) Most of the time it's empty, though. (The forecourt, not Bill's ...never mind...) But ok, it needs that plaza in front. Except it's not really a plaza -- it's more like an unusually large setback pretending not to be a plaza. Which again sort of echoes that letter writer's point re. disconnect problems, as though it's not sure about what it's supposed to be.

[Holden West]

^Yes, but wasn't there a complaint about inefficient loading of the arena?

[Ms. B. Havin]

^ What is that? You mean loading of equipment, etc.? What about the space for trucks on the north side (north/ north-west) -- or do they have to use the front to get in? (I really don't know -- hence the question marks.)

I do like that there's a parking lot behind the arena, as opposed to beside it or in front of it. It's the "in front of it" part that underwhelms, though (IMO).

Maybe it was a mistake to repeat its siting on the corner like that. The old arena was sited there, but with practically that whole block to work with, maybe it would have been better to make it bigger, but then also set its walk-in entrances more to the middle of the Blanshard side block.

Corner focus = bad feng shui.... :?:

[Holden West]

There was a letter to the editor--I think regarding the Clinton appearance--they arrived well before the start time but by there were only a couple of doors open and by the time they were processed the show was already well underway.

[VicHockeyFan]

Quit whining on arena, passports and the rest
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Published: Tuesday, January 09, 2007
Having lived in this beautiful province for 10 years, I have come to the conclusion that we have an overabundance of whiners and complainers.

In most cases, complaints are due to poor personal planning or issues are so trivial they hardly merit consideration.

First example: Complaints regarding delays at the Canadian Passport Office. Anyone who can read should have been aware passports would soon be required for foreign travel.

I picked up the application forms from the local post office, mailed them to Ottawa and received my new passport in three weeks. Total cost, normal application fee plus 51 cents postage. Great service.

Second example: Complaints regarding naming the new Victoria arena the "Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre."

Besides providing thousands of good jobs across the province, Save-On pays thousands of dollars for the privilege of having its name displayed.

These fees contribute to arena operating costs, thus reducing Victoria's tax load. A good deal for everyone.

British Columbians are fortunate to live in a province and society that is wonderful in virtually every way.

Lighten up, plan and be thankful for what we have; millions of others around the world would truly love to be in our situation.

Graham Johnston,

Qualicum Beach.

[G-Man]

Well I'll be the the first to jump on this band wagon:

Graham Johnston for Premier!

"Lighten up and vote Johnston"

[Holden West]

According to one attendee at a New Year’s Day Salmon Kings hockey game, water was dripping on to the backs of spectators in section 106 of the arena. Strategically-placed buckets caught the water.

City union leader John Burrows says he hasn’t heard of the leak. “But nothing would surprise me,” Burrows says.

I simply don’t understand Burrows’ cynicism.

After all, didn’t the builders hire the very best roofers they could find on the street? M

mailto:russfrancis@mondaymag.com

[VicHockeyFan]

Shaw Cable is moving into arena retail space.

[Galvanized]

Will it include a studio?

[VicHockeyFan]

^ Unclear at this time. I just got a bit of leaked info. I'll investigate further.

[G-Man]

I am betting it will be a Shaw merchandise outlet like Telus mobility. Nothin more. Though I would love to be wrong and see Shaw doing more programming on our station. I was shocked to see how many shows they produce for their Vancouver channel.

[gumgum]

^ Unclear at this time. I just got a bit of leaked info. I'll investigate further.

No pun intended I'm sure.

[VicHockeyFan]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 2007

PRESS RELEASE
INCUBUS
WITH SPECIAL GUESTS
Monday, May 14, 2007
Save-on-Foods Memorial Centre, Victoria
Doors: 6:30pm Show: 7:30pm

**GENERAL ADMISSION FLOOR/RESERVED STANDS**

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Young, Aggro, and from Los Angeles, Incubus is one of today’s premiere hard rock bands. But one thing setting it apart from its loud and heavy brethren is its strong progression from album to album. Make Yourself (1999), the quintet's sophomore record, was a leap forward from its 1997 debut, S.C.I.E.N.C.E. Morning View (2001), which followed hot on the heels of the group’s breakthrough single "Drive," displayed real maturity with songs like "Nice to Know You," "Circles," and "Blood on the Ground”, while on "I Wish You Were Here," "Just a Phase," "11 a.m.," and "Mexico," Incubus showed a willingness to tread softly, using acoustic guitars and touches of strings to make less noise, but more impact. Brendon O'Brien (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam) produced the follow-up, A Crow Left of Murder (2004), an even more ambitious record that featured singer Brandon Boyd’s most outspoken lyrics yet.

Now, with Light Grenades, Incubus has created a record that reaches back to its roots while forging new sounds. Once lumped in with the nu-metal brigade, Incubus proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is simply one of the decade’s great hard-rock bands.

Don’t miss Incubus with special guests on May 14th at Save-On Foods Memorial Centre

TICKETS ON SALE SATURDAY, MARCH 10TH @ 10:00AM

Tickets: $39.50 (INCL. GST) + s/c + f/f

Tickets available at Save-On Foods Box Office or Charge-by-phone 250-220-7777