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[Brantastic]

I'd guess 450 people amounts to more than 20-25 people coming and going per hour. My building of just over 200 units certainly provides more foot traffic than that. New retail also brings considerable foot traffic from elsewhere, and these projects aren't happening in isolation. Many hundreds more units are coming within two blocks of this area (1400 Vancouver and the adjacent tower on Pandora, Mazda redevelopment, The Wade, etc., most of whom will likely use Johnson or Yates to walk to and from downtown proper). It'll be thousands more residents several years down the road with the Harris Green redevelopment.
 

[Victoria Watcher]

net retail downtown is likely to decline for several years though.

and 450 people most do not hit the sidewalk. look at regent park or pacific monarch.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 August 2020 - 02:09 PM.

[dkuitu]

I would not get your hopes up for too much. 450 people sounds like a lot but it won’t amount to much extra street foot traffic. 20 or 25 extra people per hour on the sidewalk.

 

I'm not concerned about the lack of foot traffic. It's more having 450+ invested community members. Do you really think that'll have no impact? I'm going to confidently disagree with you there.

 

Also, the extra retail and pedestrian walkway will pull a lot more than 25+ pedestrians per hour at peak times.

[Mike K.]

The Hudson District is a good example of the sorts of volumes of patrons you need for a successful retail operation.

 

The Hudson, Hudson Mews, Hudson Walk One and Two represent a combined 556 units, with, say, 700 full-time residents. The Public Market was not very busy at the best of times and many retailers struggled, and this despite three fully leased office buildings immediately across the street.

 

The sort of density you need to keep businesses flourishing is very, very high when you have an environment like downtown which is lined with commercial spaces at street level.

[Nparker]

...The sort of density you need to keep businesses flourishing is very, very high when you have an environment like downtown which is lined with commercial spaces at street level.

Take away many of the transient daytime office workers - as we have seen over the past 5 months - and even greater residential density is needed to keep the commercial spaces afloat.

[dkuitu]

net retail downtown is likely to decline for several years though.

and 450 people most do not hit the sidewalk. look at regent park or pacific monarch.

 

We're more likely to have a sharp decline over the next two years in retail followed by a slow recovery over the next decade. As opposed to a slow decline.

[Brantastic]

It looks like they're done pouring the podium and are now starting on the tower as the level they're now on is recessed from all the levels beneath it.

[Nparker]

This project seems to be progressing at near "Townline" speed.

[Promontory Kingpin]

Let’s see a weekly update on this one. It’d be great to get another shot from the street looking up like the one from Brantastic

[Brantastic]

Here's one from August 13th.

[Promontory Kingpin]

It’s going to be pretty skinny eh

[Ru]

It’s going to be pretty skinny eh

Sadly not skinny enough to block those east facing units at the 834.. between the shelter next door and this building going up I feel they are the only ones in that Johnson street corridor not to see positives from the developments.

I’m excited to see this strip move along, can only be an improvement at this point!

[Nparker]

It’s going to be pretty skinny eh

There's nothing wrong with that. It sure beats Victoria's fascination with widescrapers.

[Promontory Kingpin]

There's nothing wrong with that. It sure beats Victoria's fascination with widescrapers.

Agreed

[Nparker]

I just walked past this site. It's hard to believe it has almost reached half of its full height. 14 residential floors really isn't very tall and of course this means the finished building will be nearly exactly the same height as the other "towers" within a block on this side of the street (834 Johnson and Juliet). What is it with our local obsession with a table-top skyline?

[Casual Kev]

I just walked past this site. It's hard to believe it has almost reached half of its full height. 14 residential floors really isn't very tall and of course this means the finished building will be nearly exactly the same height as the other "towers" within a block on this side of the street (834 Johnson and Juliet). What is it with our local obsession with a table-top skyline?

 

If you build tall buildings, the city will lose its history and it will destroy tourism!11

 

/s

 

 

 

Edited by Casual Kev, 15 August 2020 - 02:08 PM.

[Nparker]

But those places all look exactly the same. 

[MarkoJ]

August 16th, 2020

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[Nparker]

That is the 7^th floor deck that is being prepped for concrete now, correct?