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#501 Nparker

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:18 AM

Have you ever seen such a gobbledygook group of words?

“That will then allow us all as a community to take a next step in terms of a conversation in terms of where the statue and in what context the statue will re-emerge.”

https://www.timescol...oned-1.23810522

You'd think someone in Lisa Helps position could learn to string together a comprehensible sentence.


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#502 spanky123

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:00 AM

Have you ever seen such a gobbledygook group of words?

You'd think someone in Lisa Helps position could learn to string together a comprehensible sentence.

 

I think that it is intentional. What she is saying is that at some future point in time the City Family will determine what their response will be and when it is determined what that response will be then the City Family will start to plan what to do about it. After that planning is complete then the City Family will do something and after that they will start to think about creating a plan for what to do with the statue.


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#503 On the Level

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:03 AM

 

The City Family believes there needs to be an Indigenous response to the removal of the statue

 

That will then allow us all as a community to take a next step in terms of a conversation in terms of where the statue and in what context the statue will re-emerge.

 

Have you ever seen such a gobbledygook group of words?

You'd think someone in Lisa Helps position could learn to string together a comprehensible sentence.

 

 

If I am interpreting it correctly;

 

The City Family unilaterally decided to remove Sir John A, and now they get a chance to respond to what they have done. 

 

Once that is done, then "all of us" (the City Family and Council) will have a "conversation" about how the statue will be re-purposed as a permanent apology for colonization and where it can be semi-hidden from public view.   

 

That conversation won't be broadcast, except for the prepared speeches from council members read verbatim from their laptops.....

 

We all then get to participate by trying to understand what the council said and what it could possibly mean.



#504 rmpeers

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:10 AM

Until then we are left with the impression that this was an election campaign launch stunt for the President... sorry, the Mayor... and it was done in such a way as to possibly harm Indigenous relations. Although that may have been deliberate, to help efforts to brand her centre-left challenger and others as right wing extremists, etc.
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#505 spanky123

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 01:01 PM

If the Mayor’s actions over the past 4 years have resulted in better treatment, higher wages, more employment and better living conditions for the average FN member then I would like to hear it.
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#506 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 01:51 PM

Vancouver school covers up sign of controversial historical figure Cecil Rhodes

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...5171076?cmp=rss



#507 mbjj

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:04 AM

Here we go again. Why not just educate about who Rhodes was? My grandfather's sister moved to Rhodesia in the 1920s. The family ran a fruit farm. Have no idea how they treated their employees but recently found an article online that I'm sure is her great-grandson being run off the farm. No one employed, no food being grown.


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#508 spanky123

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:14 AM

^ If the community and school board take half the time as the city family to decide what to do then it will never be uncovered.



#509 RFS

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:09 AM

Here we go again. Why not just educate about who Rhodes was? My grandfather's sister moved to Rhodesia in the 1920s. The family ran a fruit farm. Have no idea how they treated their employees but recently found an article online that I'm sure is her great-grandson being run off the farm. No one employed, no food being grown.

 

From breadbasket of Africa and economic miracle to failed state in 30 years



#510 rjag

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:26 AM

From breadbasket of Africa and economic miracle to failed state in 30 years


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#511 Mike K.

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 05:47 PM

When I was in SA back in 2013 there were major concerns then of what had happened would eventually envelope their country. Five years later the forces are well underway.

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#512 Jackerbie

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Posted Today, 11:27 AM

Vancouver school covers up sign of controversial historical figure Cecil Rhodes

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...5171076?cmp=rss

 

 

^ If the community and school board take half the time as the city family to decide what to do then it will never be uncovered.

 

Unanimous vote last night to have it removed. The Board also approved a new policy on naming future school properties: no people names.



#513 Victoria Watcher

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Posted Today, 11:50 AM

oh that’s good. because you just know history won’t be kind on terry fox.
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#514 Cats4Hire

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Posted Today, 11:50 AM

Unanimous vote last night to have it removed. The Board also approved a new policy on naming future school properties: no people names.

I'm curious to what extent this goes. Would naming a new middle school in CoV "Victoria Middle School" count as naming it after the Queen or the city for example.
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#515 RFS

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Posted Today, 12:03 PM

oh that’s good. because you just know history won’t be kind on terry fox.


Its high time that we decolonized the Terry Fox run and had the uncomfortable conversations about his implicit white supremacy and CIS gender bias.
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#516 dasmo

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Posted Today, 12:36 PM

This is dangerous as it erases history as opposed to facing it. Again, use it as an educational tool to speak about the issues. Let's own the past and try to represent it truthfully so the bad is not repeated. This only paves the way for future evil since the reference for it to be recognized is lost. 


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#517 Love the rock

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Posted Today, 12:39 PM

oh that’s good. because you just know history won’t be kind on terry fox.

Good ! It about time who wants Terry Fox the epitome of Canadian sprit and charity to live on .
Actually I was at a luncheon with his mom once she was down to earth .
Betty said while the world saw Terry as a saint he was like every other teenager ,a pain in the butt at times . Betty herself was a remarkable woman .
Getting back to topic . Guess we won’t be going to Lisa Helps elementary school or Ben Isitt middle school in the near future.
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#518 Love the rock

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Posted Today, 12:45 PM

This is dangerous as it erases history as opposed to facing it. Again, use it as an educational tool to speak about the issues. Let's own the past and try to represent it truthfully so the bad is not repeated. This only paves the way for future evil since the reference for it to be recognized is lost.

Thank you for printing this .Sometimes I wonder if I’m the only
one who sees it this way ,guess I’m not .
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#519 Hotel Mike

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Posted Today, 02:51 PM

Look, it's a major honour to have a school named after someone. It's just a good idea to pick someone who wasn't a privileged person by way of being wealthy, or political connection...especially major imperialists. But clearly banning all names is an overreaction.  


Don't be so sure.:cool:

 



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