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[pontcanna]

"Nobody is more careful with words her than I am."

 

Little Freudian slip...

[Victoria Watcher]

not sure what you mean. my last edit beat your reply by 3 minutes.

try to keep up. it’s not easy, I will grant you that.

but challenge me on IDEAS or policy. rather than corrected typos initially caused by autocorrect.

i welcome the discussion.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 July 2021 - 01:29 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Grumpy taxpayers:




Regional police force needed

Fewer criminal charges for violent crimes are being laid in Victoria

Fewer criminal charges for violent crimes are being laid making it more difficult to govern the City of Victoria.

The clearance rate for violent crime has steadily decreased in recent years and from 59.39 in 2011 to 31.90 in 2020, according to newly released Statistics Canada figures.

“It's unacceptable that if you commit a violent crime in Victoria, there’s now only a one-in-three chance you will be criminally charged,” says Stan Bartlett, past chair of the municipal watchdog Grumpy Taxpayer$.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 July 2021 - 01:21 PM.

[sukika]

I never even came anything close to saying that.

Read my responses more closely. They are usually lengthy and comprehensive.

Nobody is more careful with words here than I am.

 

Then why do you keep pointing out she didn't try to leave? You bring it up in other threads about sexual assault as well - why did she stay, why did she go back to his place, she was drinking/doing drugs. At the very least you're victim blaming. 

[Victoria Watcher]

i am mostly looking for the other side of the story. not victim blaming at all. just looking for balance.

none of them interview the subject of the allegations.

none.

 

zero.

the story linked above states 5% of the allegations are false. fabricated. so in Saanich for instance 40 completely fake reports have been filed each year.

that seems crazy.

 

i want to justice in every case. 

 

but i also want people to know that things are not so black and white.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 28 July 2021 - 03:20 PM.

[Mike K.]

Grumpy taxpayers:

“It's unacceptable that if you commit a violent crime in Victoria, there’s now only a one-in-three chance you will be criminally charged,” says Stan Bartlett, past chair of the municipal watchdog Grumpy Taxpayer$.

 

That's because the victim is not required to cooperate with police. A rise in street violence associated with the street drug and street criminality industries create an outcome where people don't want to cooperate with police.

 

Then add onto it the rising attitude that cooperating with police is bad for you, according to social justice advocates (not just the perps).

[sukika]

If it is about balance, why do you keep questioning the victims' actions? Why not ask why a man would invite an inebriated woman over to his place, or give someone drugs and alcohol and put themselves at risk of false allegations?

1 in 5 women and 1 in 71 men will be raped in their lives, 2 out of 3 sexual assaults go unreported. The numbers in the Saanich News article were for a 10 year period so about 4 could be false, 80 are true, and an additional 160 sexual assaults are unreported every year.

Edited by sukika, 28 July 2021 - 03:43 PM.

[Barrrister]

Exactly where did you get the one in five women are raped statistic? On the face of it this seems questionable. But I would certainly like to review the source you are quoting. 

[sukika]

From the National Sexual Violence Resource Centre -  realizing now that these stats are for the US: https://www.nsvrc.or...-violence_0.pdf

 

Seeing now that CDC site uses different wording, they state that nearly 1 in 5 women and nearly 1 in 38 men have experienced completed or attempted rape: https://www.cdc.gov/...ence/index.html

 

According to StatsCan, more than 11 million Canadians reported they have been the victims of sexual assault since the age of 15.  

https://www150.statc...e/00017-eng.htm

Edited by sukika, 29 July 2021 - 07:54 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

If it is about balance, why do you keep questioning the victims' actions? Why not ask why a man would invite an inebriated woman over to his place, or give someone drugs and alcohol and put themselves at risk of false allegations?

 

i am only questioning it in these very very few high-profile cases.  that the media seems fascinated with.

 

you could go down to the courthouse today and see men sentenced for sexual assault probably every day.   i am not defending any of them.  i do question why actual convictions do not make the news but other often weak allegations do.

 

is it more important to the public or for the public good to write one 53-paragraph article about a sexually aggressive Realtor that was never charged, or to write about maybe the dozens of men every week that are actually convicted of these sex assault crimes?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 July 2021 - 08:08 AM.

[pontcanna]

This was discussed on CFAX this morning:

 

Former Taber man appealing sex assault conviction

JULY 6, 2021 - LETHBRIDGE HERALD

A 45-year-old former Taber man who was convicted in March of sexual offences against a female teenager 14 years ago, has appealed his conviction and sentence.

Richard Antony Elliott, who now lives in B.C., was sentenced in May to nearly six years in a federal prison on two counts of sexual assault and one count of sexual exploitation. In his appeal filed last month with Alberta’s Court of Appeal, Elliott claims he is not guilty of the sexual assaults, and says he has “questions” about his sentence, particularly regarding the court’s order he register with the Sex Offender Information Registry for the rest of his life.

 

According to CTV News in Victoria, B.C., which reported on the story when Elliott was sentenced, Elliott worked as executive assistant to Victoria B.C.’s mayor as recently as April. The report quotes a city spokesperson who said the city “had no prior knowledge” of the offences, which “happened while he was living elsewhere.”

 

More: https://lethbridgehe...ult-conviction/
 

[sukika]

i am only questioning it in these very very few high-profile cases.  that the media seems fascinated with.

 

you could go down to the courthouse today and see men sentenced for sexual assault probably every day.   i am not defending any of them.  i do question why actual convictions do not make the news but other often weak allegations do.

 

is it more important to the public or for the public good to write one 53-paragraph article about a sexually aggressive Realtor that was never charged, or to write about maybe the dozens of men every week that are actually convicted of these sex assault crimes?

 

 

The article was about how the police mishandled her case involving the realtor, which they later apologized for.  That is why he was never charged.  If you still think that questioning this victim's actions is appropriate then let's agree to disagree.  

[pontcanna]

Day parole extended for killer of B.C. teen Reena Virk

July 29, 2021
 

Kelly Ellard, aka Kerry Sim

 

VICTORIA -- The 38-year-old woman convicted of murdering teenager Reena Virk near Victoria in 1997 will be allowed to continue her day parole.

The Parole Board of Canada ruled on July 14 that Kelly Ellard, who now goes by the name Kerry Sim, will continue to spend two nights a week at a community residential facility and five nights at her private home.

 

More: https://vancouverisl...-virk-1.5527932

 

[m3m]

I think tinder “dating” is for the lazy, sloppy and uncreative to begin with.
 

 

 

I am also not sure if you know what tinder is for. it’s overwhelmingly used for “sex on the first ‘date’”.
 

 

I don't think you have any idea about what tinder is really like. 

[Victoria Watcher]

still no arrests in the captain Cook statute vandalism case?

even with all that video. almost like it’s not politically correct to investigate.

[G-Man]

What's going on at Pandora and Blanshard?

[Rob Randall]

^Probably The Wacky Anti-Mask Pack. Which was my favourite Saturday morning Hanna-Barbera cartoon.

[Victoria Watcher]

Police and firefighters in Sherbrooke, Que., allegedly mistook a woman's body for a mannequin and threw her remains into a dumpster, police Chief Danny McConnell said Thursday.

The incident occurred July 23 in the city about 150 kilometres east of Montreal, McConnell said, adding that the coroner's office is investigating and the Crown prosecutor's office has been notified.

https://www.timescol...bage-1.24347302

that’s a bit hard to fathom.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 July 2021 - 04:45 PM.

[pontcanna]

Nanaimo police release photo of suspect car in attack on homeless man

JULY 29, 2021

 

Police say they believe this vehicle was involved in an attack on a homeless man about 9:30 p.m. on July 10 near the intersection of Victoria Avenue and 102nd Street in Nanaimo

Nanaimo RCMP have released a picture of a car believed to have been used in an attack on a homeless man in Nanaimo who was run over twice and hit with bear spray.

The 45-year-old man remains in hospital in Victoria being treated for multiple injuries, including a fractured pelvis.

 

More: https://www.timescol...-man-1.24347332

 

[Victoria Watcher]

that’s the best our crack RCMP lab could do with the photo?

Enhance!

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 July 2021 - 06:09 PM.