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[Victoria Watcher]

Seems odd, doesn’t it, that single family homes would practice such cleanliness while condo and apartment residents no longer qualify for the service?

not really. in the apartment once you’ve dumped your contaminating goods in with others you can’t be pointed to as the offender. so it’s human nature that maybe 5 guys in an 80-unit condo do all that bad sorts.

[tjv]

Most of the glass that is recycled is used for sandblasting purposes and as fill.

correct, plus fibreglass insulation

 

but only drinking glass is recycled, window glass goes into the landfill and always has

[nagel]

correct, plus fibreglass insulation

 

but only drinking glass is recycled, window glass goes into the landfill and always has

Yup when I worked for my dad (window installation) I used to be the one who would be sent to the dump with the old windows.  It's interesting how quickly you lose the sheer joy of smashing glass in the Hartland dumpster bins.  Still, each one had to be smashed to balance the natural order of things.  Tempered glass isn't always easy to break and sometimes you're chucking wood at corners in a feeble effort to get the job done.

[Mike K.]

not really. in the apartment once you’ve dumped your contaminating goods in with others you can’t be pointed to as the offender. so it’s human nature that maybe 5 guys in an 80-unit condo do all that bad sorts.

The pick up crews just leave the bad stuff right where it is. People don’t learn, and eventually the recycling ends up in the garbage. The reason why the CRD can pat itself on the back is they leave what they don’t want at the curb.

[Victoria Watcher]

it’s harder in the big apartment bins though than in shallow sfd blue boxes to see contamination.

[jonny]

Condo and apartment recycling dumpsters are terrible. The amount of contamination is awful. It makes you think why bother--just send the whole works to the dump.

 

Yup. It just proves that the average person doesn't give a hoot. 

 

I pick plastic out of the compost bin from time to time, but only if it's right at the top because our compost bin is so disgusting that I'm kind of afraid of it. 

[Victoria Watcher]

the average person will do what they can get away with. and in an apartment it’s easy. that’s why apartment garbage areas get filled with “free” furniture items but you see quite a bit less of that in front of sfd curbs.

you never see a “free nightstand courtesy of unit #412” sign on the item.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 11 January 2019 - 09:35 AM.

[Mike K.]

Most modern buildings at least have cameras within the recycling room, so it's not hard to pinpoint who does what. But even there, there's no will to do so just to play garbage police with your tenants.

[lanforod]

^ it's also not legal to use camera footage for that purpose.

[Mike K.]

Whaddya mean?

[lanforod]

eg. https://www.cwilson....a-corporations/

 

 

 

Use of the video surveillance to enforce minor bylaw enforcement was not a reasonable use and contrary to section 14(1) of the Personal Information Protection Act. 

The Adjudicator also concluded that daily viewing of footage from cameras in the absence of a complaint or evidence of an unauthorized entry, theft or threat to personal safety was not warranted. 

[Nparker]

^ it's also not legal to use camera footage for that purpose.

That's what I would have thought.

[Mike K.]

The Adjudicator also concluded that daily viewing of footage from cameras in the absence of a complaint or evidence of an unauthorized entry, theft or threat to personal safety was not warranted.

 

 

There you go, all that is required is a complaint.

[Nparker]

There you go, all that is required is a complaint.

As a strata owner, I'd want more than a single complaint to justify the installation of cameras in my recycling area.

[lanforod]

I've been through this somewhat with a strata. You'll get in hot water if you try viewing the footage without a solid complaint of criminal activity. Dirty or wrong items in the bins isn't criminal AFAIK.

[Mike K.]

Hmmm, I see live feeds in management offices all the time and buildings with on-site security or concierge desks have live feeds continuously streaming.

[Victoria Watcher]

some buildings do it did have a live security camera feed all residents can watch on their tv.

[tjv]

Its also illegal to watch your employees via camera

[mbjj]

Yup. It just proves that the average person doesn't give a hoot. 

 

I pick plastic out of the compost bin from time to time, but only if it's right at the top because our compost bin is so disgusting that I'm kind of afraid of it. 

 

Yup. It just proves that the average person doesn't give a hoot. 

 

I pick plastic out of the compost bin from time to time, but only if it's right at the top because our compost bin is so disgusting that I'm kind of afraid of it. 

I use twist ties on the composting bags as there's no other way to do them up. When I don't,  the glop ends up loose in the bin. I don't care anymore.

[Coreyburger]

Saw an interesting analysis out of Vancouver: although multi-family units tend to recycle at lower rates, they still overall produced less garbage than a single family house on a per unit basis.