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City of Victoria looks to rein in horse-drawn carriages


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#481 jonny

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:39 PM

If you're retired your opinion doesn't count. Got it. 


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#482 Mike K.

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:46 PM

No jonny. The new mantra is if you're a homeowner your opinion doesn't count.


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#483 jonny

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:49 PM

Your opinion does not count if it does not conform to the pre-approved opinions contained within the state's policy guidelines. 


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#484 Nparker

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:49 PM

No jonny. The new mantra is if you're a homeowner your opinion doesn't count.

Or any property owner for that matter.


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#485 jonny

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:49 PM

If you're retired your opinion doesn't count. Got it. 

 

But we want to let 14 year olds vote. 


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#486 Nparker

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:53 PM

I suspect it won't be long before someone on the CoV council suggests the establishment of a "carousel"


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#487 rjag

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 03:30 PM

Ok so basically, if you identify with 3 or more of the following you are ineligible to have an opinion due to your privilege

 

Please choose as follows:

  • white
  • male
  • Female
  • cisgender
  • Eu ancestry
  • own a home
  • drive a car
  • possibly a business owner who has had to sign personal guarantees to run their business
  • hired people
  • only ride a bike occasionally for fun
  • dont really care what bathroom you use as long as you wash your hands
  • arent that fussed about capitalism
  • hates kale
  • agrees that people should be hired and paid on merit and not by Govt diktat 
  • agrees that if you hired a woman you'd pay them the same as a man for the exact same job
  • dont envy someone who just gets on with it
  • has an opinion that doesnt conform to established socialist ethos
  • dont mind the horse and carriage business
  • are old enough to remember Paul Henderson scoring that goal
  • listen to Adam Stirling and agree with most of what he says
  • thinks Greta Thurnberg is a manipulated child

 

The more you choose the less your opinion counts....please feel free to add more


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#488 Nparker

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 03:32 PM

I literally am ineligible to have an opinion for several lifetimes based on the above criteria. 



#489 tommy

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 06:40 PM

^

 

likewise



#490 vortoozo

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:44 PM

Who said CFAX listeners opinions didn't matter? This thread went in a strange direction...



#491 Midnightly

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Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:48 PM

that leaves me screwed... Kale is evil.. evil i say!


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#492 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 02:42 PM

I would like to add to the growing concern in this community about the populist tactics of City of Victoria Coun. Ben Isitt from the perspective of business and the Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce.

 

 
 

The Chamber is explicitly non-partisan and we do our best to work with, and to critique, all parties and levels of government. We advocate for a strong economy and safe and healthy community. We seek real solutions for issues such as housing affordability, street-drug overdoses and climate change. We try not to make it personal or single out individuals for their political tactics.

 

But when Isitt chose to attack a legitimate and popular business, we decided it was time to end our silence.

 

The last straw for us was Isitt’s targeting of the horse carriage industry. In sharp contrast to Isitt, Coun. Charlayne Thornton-Joe has spent countless hours listening to public concerns and looking at evidence.

 

 

https://www.timescol...stry-1.23856994

 

Catherine Holt is CEO of the Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce..

 


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#493 Mike K.

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:12 PM

Recall that the Chamber also heavily critiqued council's decision to send a letter to oil producers requesting reparations for the City's climate-change related costs.


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#494 rmpeers

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 06:58 PM






https://www.timescol...stry-1.23856994


I think a lot of people are getting very weary of Ben's increasingly Trumpian approach.

#495 rjag

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:27 AM

Looks like Bens little activist buddies are ramping up the rhetoric again

 

https://twitter.com/...296931727675392

 

 

 

Why are horse carriages still a thing in 2019? I just saw a horse in obvious distress pulling tourists in downtown hot summer #Victoria. and : have some courage and end this abuse already. Montreal did it. What’s your excuse?

 

 

 

 

She has been very active on the homeless front with tent city and Chrissy Brett etc. https://www.google.c...chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

Not exactly an unbiased individual...

 

 
 

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#496 Mike K.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:41 AM

A response to her tweet: “are you looking into this, because i'm curious. my guess would be that theres a historically powerful brotherhood of carriage license holders, and they exploit this brutal arrangement for significant capital. just a guess though”

Her guess is wrong. A woman runs one of the largest carriage operators in Canada, which happens to be in Victoria.
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#497 rjag

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:52 AM

A response to her tweet: “are you looking into this, because i'm curious. my guess would be that theres a historically powerful brotherhood of carriage license holders, and they exploit this brutal arrangement for significant capital. just a guess though”

Her guess is wrong. A woman runs one of the largest carriage operators in Canada, which happens to be in Victoria.

 

Yup isnt she a widow and single handedly runs the operation and raised kids?

 

https://www.oakbayne...ry-friedlander/

 

Donna Friedlander had a few moments of emotion and reflection the night before her family-run business announced a new scholarship in the name of her late husband, Larry.

Larry Friedlander was part of the business — Tally-Ho Carriage Tours — in Victoria for nearly 30 years, until his sudden death from a heart attack in 2015. Donna found herself a single mom and now had to become the public face of the longtime horse-and-carriage company.

 


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#498 Mike K.

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:55 AM

Yes, that’s what she said at the council meeting. Hers is a story of courage and perseverance and yet it has been whittled down to one of animal abuse and a conspiracy by anti-carriage lobbyists, it looks like.

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#499 Mike K.

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 08:22 AM

The SPCA will be sending a delegation to speak before the Committee of the Whole in regards to the horse-drawn carriage issue.


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